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  1. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout The North Hollywood Shootout is probably the most high profile shooting involving body armor, and the two shooters, Larry Eugene Phillips and Decebal Ștefan Emilian did wear light Type IIIA bulletproof vest, not all that different than what...
  2. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    The armor piercing ammo restrictions doesn't make a lot of sense because for most of history all ammo was armor piercing. It was never a problem for law abiding Americans to own it before.
  3. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    Oh absolutely agreed, the Uvaldi shooter should have had a criminal history. That said, not every 18 year old is the Uvaldi shooter, and the vast majority are law abiding citizens, whom there is no good reason to limit their access to body armor.
  4. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    An 18 year old adult with no criminal history is by definition a law abiding citizen.
  5. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    Nope. We have seen this play out again, and again, and again. We say no, you can't ban this. They say, fine, what about this? We say, okay we will meet you in the middle and restrict that. Then a few years later and the compromise turns into a "loophole" and they hound the self-made issue...
  6. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    No, I understood you, and you should really speak for yourself, I wear a light vest almost every day. Sometimes I also conceal carry. In both cases, no one around me knows about either unless I choose to tell them. So while the majority of people may not wear body armor casually, some...
  7. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    These two statements would seem to contradict each other. If "someone could get around it" isn't an acceptable argument against banning/limiting the availability of body armor, then how is "they might not have it when they need it" an acceptable argument for banning/limiting the availability of...
  8. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    Except it'll impact law abiding citizens far more than said teenager. I don't see how banning or restricting a defensive item will help with the mass shooter epidemic. Just like gun free zones haven't helped. All restrictions on these sort of items will do is make it more difficult for law...
  9. Ixian

    United States Push for gun control at state level include bill from Pennsylvania Democrat to ban body armor

    Right, taking away a defensive item with total stop mass shootings.
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