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Lol, after how the military whipped their ass with religious freedoms over the Covid vax, you'd have to be brain dead to enlist.

Let's be honest, most young people who would traditionally be interested in military service aren't using tiktok or youtube shorts that much anyway. In short the idiots at the Pentagon are advising to the wrong people.

Agreed. It seems the militaries big plan is to flood tiktoc and youtube shorts with "Totally Not Paid" vets to do stupid tiktoc trends with a military twist. They have absolutely been swamping those platforms the last few weeks.

Right, which is why we need to put it all aside, and just acknowledge that the US Navy really should be considered the best branch. We are all surely tired of this topic, lets just come together and agree. 😁

Wow, I wasn't aware of that. Actually pretty interesting. And very in keeping with the American tradition of citizen militia.

My favorite part of US military history is that the US Navy is actually older than the United States. So technically the Navy is the senior military branch. Edit: My poor bloody infantry cousin just informed me that the Congress of the Confederation established the army in June, while the navy...

Smart Marines will say "Mens Department". Thankfully they are rare.

The Marines are just a Department of the Navy, so technically even when the Marines go in first, it's really the mighty US Navy.

My argument against the Air Force being superior is that there are more planes in the ocean than ships in the sky.

Considering 71% of the planet is water, I feel justified in saying Navy > Army.

...No No thats not what I'm arguing at all. I have never said there is "no avenue for enlisted to officer" I said it doesn't happen in large enough numbers to be useful for recruiting purposes. I see, I suspected we were talking past each other. I was under the impression that you had meant...

Officers make up a grand total of 18% of all US Armed Forces. Thats across all military branches. The vast majority of those Officers start their military careers as Officers, not enlisted. Are we really going with the narrative that advertising the minuscule chance an enlisted man has at...

Anecdotes and articles describing the process do not, in fact, disprove my point.

... Yeah, you clearly aren't grasping what I'm saying. The process for moving from enlisted to officer , which I agree is a challenge and lot of effort to advance through, can't very well be used as a supportive talking point to improve recruitment, because again, the vast majority of sailors...

Yes, there are programs, but those programs aren't just open to anyone. The vast majority of enlisted sailors won't ever qualify for them. My point isn't that enlisted sailors never become officers, my point is that it is so rare it can't be used as a talking point to improve recruitment.

It just isn't that common. And certainly Seaman to Admiral is very rare. Sorry, but the example of an elite special forces operator moving up the pipeline to reach that rank doesn't really count as an example for the wider upward mobility in the Navy. Show me an example of a bunch of Culinary...

It isn't "hand waving" you listed what is commonly known as "an exception to the rule". The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of sailors will never go from a Seaman to Admiral, the pipeline is restricted heavily. Is it impossible for a Seaman to become an Officer? Theoretically no...

Unless your rate/mos is over manned and it's literally impossible to score a percentile high enough to advance on the advancement exam. SEALs are special forces. They are a small elite group that gets a lot of attention and care. They are not representative of the wider navy.

The "women problem" spread to submarines. 1/3 of the reason I didn't reenlist. The other 2/3s is the aforementioned woke bullshit and the quality of life problems.

I think the fact that a lot of the demographic that used to want to join the military, no longer does, due to a variety of factors including quality of life and woke politics, it seems under estimated to me.