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  1. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Cool, still doesn't change you're wrong about the Spencer Rifles, however.
  2. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    No, it's referring to both. Case in point is here with the category specifically marked Civil War models, showing where the serial numbers go:
  3. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    No, they were not; the figure is from total production runs in Carbines including most which were from 1865 or later.
  4. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Many Union firearms, for example, were Pre-War stocks, European imports or made with steel imported from the British; domestic production only really got under way after 1863 because manufacturing methods were achieved via industrial espionage...in Britain. If I remember correctly, as late as...
  5. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    I think we're losing sight of the thread purpose, but the UK would've curbstomped the U.S. as best exemplified by the fact the majority of the lead, gunpowder, rifles, gun steel and percussion caps, to name just a few items, used by the Union were all British in origin. The Royal Navy was far...
  6. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    That's cool and all, but there weren't 200,000 Spencers and, IIRC, even this brigade wasn't fully equipped with them. Again, however, this doesn't detract from the main point?
  7. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Not at all, you seem to have confused contracts with actual production. 10,000 Spencers were ordered in 1861, but only 600 had been delivered by January of 1863. I have no idea where you are getting 200,000 ordered, as that would've meant almost the entire frontline strength of the Union...
  8. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    For the cost of an RBL 7 inch gun, you could afford to buy roughly 50 Spencer Rifles; to further put that into context, off the top of my head only 5 to 10,000 were produced during the entire war. If someone would pay for it, how come the entire Union Army, rather than a few regiments, were not...
  9. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Actually, they stopped making them mostly because of cost reasons. That doesn't change, however, the original point that a rifled breech loading artillery piece was revolutionary in the 19th Century, particularly in the context of most artillery being muzzle loading smoothbores in the ACW...
  10. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Given the Confederacy doesn't exist today, that should be obvious, and perhaps can serve as an idea of where the Ukraine War is probably headed. That he attempted it and came close to achieving it can explain why Ukraine went down a similar path in its own conflict. I don't want to get lost in...
  11. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    Broadly, I agree. Just like the Confederacy, Ukraine is facing a materially superior foe, who both outnumbers and outproduces them, which makes any prolonged war of attrition a simple matter of math that isn't in their favor. This leaves them, just like it left the Confederates, with two...
  12. History Learner

    Civil War & Ukraine War Article on Parallels/Anglo-French Intervention ACW

    And yet, 40% of the lead and 60% of the gunpowder Confederate forces used to kill Union soldiers was British in origin. The famous CSS Alabama was from a British shipyard, among others. France provided the six million Franc value Erlanger Loan to the Confederates for use in purchasing war...
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