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Tens of thousands of Pakistanis and Nigerians have been deployed as peacekeepers, if you want to use three as an example of what they will do to Israeli children, then perhaps we should start talking about the Stern Gang or Lehi in relation to the Israelis as a whole, no? As for your opinion...

Largely because of facts on the ground, the 1947 Plan was already kinda difficult and then you have the Cold War heating up at the same time. Until the settlements took off in the past 20 years too, the 1967 lines largely matched the ethnic/religious reality on the ground.

I mean, if you really want to push the issue, I'm all for more IDF soldiers going home in body bags for their illegal actions. Bringing in outside peacekeepers-who don't have the accumulated racial and religious hate the Israelis have managed to build up for themselves over the decades-would be...

At the same time, the Jews were considering expanding the war into all of Palestine; I tend to dismiss both sides in this regard and take the international position.

Honestly, I'm just going to start saying 1967 borders + International Control of Jerusalem because these proposals usually have a poison pill or invite one side to make complaints, etc.

International Law has that force, as the example of Apartheid South Africa shows, and even if you take the baseless position that U.S. law prevents enforcing sanctions on Israel for some magical reason, if you accept might makes right, well, Andrew Jackson shows exactly all that needs to be said...

As I said, it's really hilarious and blatant how much of a hypocrite you are on this, because literally just two pages ago you were talking about how the law matters and now you want it thrown out in favor of a might makes right narrative. If you really think international law is so toothless...

Probably need to go re-read the UN Charter and associated case law then, because by signing up to it Israel agreed to exactly this by abiding by said Charter and allowing UN oversight. If Israel hates it, tough shit, either leave the UN or get over it because that's what you agreed to. Funny...

Might Makes Right =/= Legality

As Israel is a signatory of the UN Charter, they have absolutely every right to do so and hence why the overwhelming number of nations of the world refuse to recognize the claims of the Israelis to such.

According to international law and the consensus of the international community, it is not and never will be.

I wasn't aware I said Tel Aviv should be under international administration?

U.S. aid to Israel dwarfs that sent to Egypt and any aid to Middle East nations, by U.S. law, has to be matched with equal aid to Israel in terms of military aid. So, if the U.S. strikes a deal to provide say, F-35s to the UAE, we are required to give equal military aid to Israel to compensate...

@Kram what is your position on this? It's rather unique I know lol.

I know you're Jewish and have ties to Israel, so I understand your prospective.

Tentatively, I could endorse such a proposal but I would want it put to a vote in Palestine as well as a strong enforcement mechanism. The explosion in Israeli settlers since the 1990s is a serious issue that upsets me, and contradicts their previous obligations.

What would the resource constraints be like, especially with regards to water and would the Israelis be required to repatriate the rest of their settlers?

What was their stance on Palestinian neighborhoods in Jerusalem, religious access to Holy sites, etc. First time I've heard of this plan, I'm more familiar with the ones the U.S. undertook to create. Usually my default position is 1967 with international administration of Jerusalem.

Do you have a map handy that closely follows this? I'd like to see it before passing any judgements, given the "plan" we saw under the Trump Administration lol.