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  1. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    You have a bit of a problem with understanding the words "not entering a circular debate over this", do you?
  2. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    It's not an insect morphologically or genetically, but it's pretty much an insect in terms of autonomous thinking (and therefore moral value), except dumber. It's not a unique human being since at that point it's not any more a human being than a random collection of cells from your body are a...
  3. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    There are the rights of two potential humans here at stake. One of them is, at some point, an insect, not human. Determining the exact point at which it is no longer an insect but a human with rights equal to its mother is a matter of your particular ethical flavor rather than science. But in...
  4. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    Again, already discussed all this, not getting into debate.
  5. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    1) A fetus is not going to be saying anything in 9 months. 2) A cow is a completely different story from a fetus. Much more intelligent and developed. I still eat it. 3) Every single one of your sperms is a potential conversationalist just waiting to happen. I don't see anyone bemoaning their...
  6. GoldRanger

    The Abortion Thread

    As I have stated in other places on the board, I am solidly pro-choise. I consider abortion to be an inalienable right, I do not consider the life of a first trimester (and possibly a bit later) fetus to be anything even approaching the worth of a real human's life (more closely an insect's...
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