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I thought my OP and poll were mildly humorous. I'm a little bit hurt now.

Yes, because that information was available to you pretty freaking early that they were doing dumb shit with the game. You didn't pay for that. If I sold you a 60 dollar game that was a menu screen and you used lootboxes to unlock each checkpoint of each level, the full $60 dollar game is the...

A really shitty game you shouldn't buy would do that. Its not dishonest to do it, just a garbage move from a game you shouldn't buy and are not in any way entitled to have designed or made to your exact specifications using the force of government to do so.

DLC is withheld content man. Heard of day 1 DLC? You absolutely did not pay for the "full" game. You paid for exactly what was included on the disk at purchase. What you are describing is what you wish things to be, not what it is. You wish they let you pay 60 and gave you everything, but they...

Those dont consecutively follow. Are your choices entirely yours? No, you've got a bunch of factors that can be said not to be yours. But at the end of the day I think it would do people a lot of good if government stopped seeming like the option to turn to take away their choices and freedom...

No, because lootboxes aren't fraud. They are advertised as is. Throw money in and you have these chances for these items. Have you thought maybe I do have some understanding of psychology, we just have different principles?

Of course they can. But being a dick isn't illegal, and absolutely should not be. Don't like a company? Don't give them your money. Better than letting a console raise your kids and then crying when it turns out you let them spend your rent money. Of course you should supervise what your kids buy.

There is no gun being placed to anyones head, therefore there is no force. Its all choices. People are choosing to indulge in these vices, they don't like the outcomes of these choices, and so they blame everything but themselves and invite the government further into their own lives to let them...

Except that, again, by virtue of being real and valuable that makes it more like gambling not less. Do you choose to support regulation based on principles or feelings? Personally I go with principles, not just because I don't like that thing. Your justification for regulation has continually...

Of course it is. Its using the power of government to come in and handle something saying people are too impotent to handle their own issues and need bureaucrats invited in to be able to get them to stop spending their own money in ways that they apparently can't help themselves. We need to...

Fate Grand Order. Pretty sure that game requires lootboxes to even play, and its pretty popular.

People love that fate game and as far as I am aware its absolutely essential.

That's the parents fault for giving the kid access in the first place either way. Not a companies fault you are a bad parent. Thats on them to do that, and people arent infants who need the government to step in and control them because they cant stop swiping their credit cards and they need a...

Its fairly easy to get banned from a lot of games. Like pokemon or the baseball cards of yesterday?

I'm confused as to how being optional has anything to do with determining whether its gambling or not. Why would a game that made it essential now not be gambling?

You aren't explaining what makes that now gambling, because last I checked most games that are gambling, like slots, poker, roulette, etc, the act of dropping cash is pretty essential to the game.

See, being worth something makes it more like gambling, not less, and if a singles market is enough to make it different than anything that can be traded as a steam item like CSGO is now no longer gambling. So don't play EA games then. Is it that difficult not to?

So if they are optional does that make them more gambling than being a feature?

The big question I would pose is what is the difference really between packets of trading cards and lootboxes? The only major one I can see is that people tend to like trading cards more, or at the very least there is less dislike for them.

Yeah I absolutely agree. Its why I generally dont play many triple A games. If you dont want to deal with lootboxes thats the solution, just dont. Dont legislate how a company gets to make their games.