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No? I was genuinely asking if you could explain that quote and case, because you are obviously more familiar with this than I am. I wasn’t ignoring it, you were able to source a lot of stuff that I needed to read. When I was reading things on this subject I came across that, and I was curious...

here’s Francesco Petrarch writing in 1360 about the Scythian slave trade in Venice. ‘Whereas huge shipments of grain used to arrive by ship annually in this city, now they arrive laden with slaves, sold by their wretched families to alleviate their hunger. An unusually large and countless crowd...

this sounds fairly revisionist and doesn’t really match up with much historically. Can you show me this in Catholic doctrine because from the christianization of Rome on it wasn’t abolished and it’s bizarre to me to blame Protestants for slavery. Somehow we are to blame for the behavior of...

I’d agree with this mostly, with a few important points though. Biblical slavery does cover Roman slavery, and what is said about it is how a slave owner must treat his slaves and vice versa was said in regards to Slave owners under the Roman system. My view is that in talking about slavery as a...

That’s not really true. Jefferson and many others saw that having two very distinct groups with natural differences and animosity between each other would lead to racial conflict which is why things like the American Colonization Society started. The very fact that you have Africans and...

It was before the non aggression pact. While Germany had all the attention on them for their annexations of different territories, the Russians used that opportunity to do exactly what Germany was doing with its Anschluss and taking of the Sudetenland etc to go and do all the same things Germany...

Oh yeah, threatened to invade Romania unless they handed over Bessarabia and invaded and took over Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. So in some total the Soviets outright annexed three nations entirely, split one in half in an alliance with the Germans, and threatened two nations with invasion for...

You’re missing Finland too, which led to the Finnish joining the Axis to get their land back.

The Soviets invaded Finland and Poland.

Yeah because you have a gut reaction built up that this is a very bad thing to say. It’s only because I say that slavery doesn’t make you inherently evil or immoral. But if I say the found fathers aren’t, or Rome wasn’t, or all the other people and figures and nations with slavery weren’t...

Compared to the slavery practiced in much of the other European colonies where the death rate of slaves was so high they needed to continually import more to replace them it wasn’t. I question whether it’s really possible not to have that with two vastly different ethnic populations because now...

Adding to this it also pretty much killed Westphalian sovereignty which has over all been a bad thing to lose that. It’s why we have people pushing for intervention and war over gay rights and mistreatment of people domestically now, which should generally be irrelevant to the government. There...

Exactly this. The American south would have resembled Ireland in relation to the UK only on a far vaster scale and probably have been as much to this day. You probably even would have seen a second secession when America was in crisis in the Great Depression, and far less unity between the regions.

They weren’t that different in legacy or ideology. Confederates were Americans and hailed from much the same places and cultures that produced our founding fathers. The idea that they are as foreign as the Taliban to the Americans is bizarre to me.

no I said the legacy of the occupation and Nuremberg trials, mainly DeNazification, has led to future problems with Germany, which you can see within the EU, the refugee crisis, and the treatment of AfD among others. I say that because it also is something that shouldn’t have been done to the...

segregation wasn’t southern only. The Klan wasn’t everyone or even most people. The CSAs goals weren’t that disgusting for the time, owning slaves in it of itself doesn’t make you evil or a monster. And the legacy of the Union victory has inflicted probably more damage than allowing the split...

The men who actually fought the war and took the surrender of the Confederates thought differently. I think if the guys who actually spent five years killing each other and fighting and losing friends to each other could give the confederates dignity and honor in peace it’s fucking ridiculous...

No lol. Both the Union and the Confederacy were legacies of the American revolution and colonies, the confederacy held nearly half the original 13, in fact, held the birth place of American colonization where the very first permanent settlement landed and the very first organization to get a...

Loyalty to the US government does not remotely make one a patriot of the nation. I would also look at that last letter in CSA. Patriots of Britain. The difference with the CSA and Union is that both are American, both are a part of American history.

What happened last summer again. I don’t think I ever called them patriots in respect to the United States Government.