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If Trump picks Halley all of you better lick my boots and apologize for ever having the audacity of defending him. ("At least he is better than Biden" doesn't matter when he has placed the Democrats best friends back in charge of your political movement.) Agreed, Trump dies Halley takes over...

Forgive me, it's been a while since I looked up the particular wording of the 22 amendment and I forgot about that byline, in any case as Biden can probably be propped up another two years if barely, in fact it works out better that way by not coming across as a 'gamey' political strategy by not...

Maybe but I wouldn't stake my life on it, at the core the establishment R wants the left to win and nothing else.

I don't think they have the balls when there are less derisive means of keeping Trump off the ballot, more likely is the establishment refusing him as the Republican nominee on bogus grounds during the national convention regardless of how much a majority he gets and nominates Haley anyway...

On a surprising note, Desantis had 2,571 votes which is an impressive 0.38% of the vote considering he completely bowed out and the next highest write in candidate was Vivek at 631 votes or 0.09% of the vote. It just proves my point that DeSantis was still a good alternative candidate sad he...

The statistics show that there are more establishment hacks than previously thought, no offense I am not a fan of Trump anymore by any means, but anybody who votes Haley is part of the problem, at least Desantis for all accusations against him of being a hack wasn't a complete and utter...

Within one week Trump both invited Kanye to the Mar-A-Lago with Nick Fuentes and spoke. That was enough for me to call it quits, this was after me spending a year and defending him to others and requesting people to give him a benefit of a doubt as to him being an autocratic strong man. In...

Well, that is it for me as far as Party Presidential Canidates go. I didn't feel like Ron was ideal or perfect, but like hell am I voting for Haley, beyond that I voted for Trump twice and that is enough given his behavior. I guess I probably will vote write in this year.

Harry Truman?

Out of curiosity what would you do if the pick was Haley?

Yeah, keyword being in Florida. The average voter outside of Florida doesn't remember him and I know because every time I ask anybody about the election only one name springs to memory everyone else is a background character that is destined to lose. My argument isn't that DeSantis can win that...

...Or just be an incumbent who the dumb will vote for regardless?... Desantis isn't known, Trump is, that doesn't mean one is better than the other, it's exactly why Biden is running for Harris and not Harris herself, even if she is better ticket for the dems by virtue of not being a vegetable...

That is one way to take it, but another is that DeSantis has been heavily put down as a nobody since the beginning of the primary when he launched his campaign, since the beginning Trump and his followers have been putting him down under ever excuse given as well as the democrat aligned media of...

The man isn't that bad despite the smear campaign against him and the shit that cropped up with his rushed entry, money alone doesn't win votes if that were the case Bloomberg would have won years ago, so clearly Desantis is doing something right. It's no surprise that many are ticked at Trump...

I hope to God he doesn't, the man is rightwing Bloomberg/Yang and every time he says he 'cares' or 'understands' it takes all my effort to not break out laughing.

Currently only 2.53% of precincts are reporting but the current numbers are. Trump 54.38 Haley 19.79 DeSantis 16.84 Vivec 7.62 If these percentages don't change expected by me at least, Vivec is a lame duck candidate Desantis is doing better than I thought he would, given my expectations...

I just hope Haley gets crushed by everyone else while Don gets the slimmest of majorities, he needs to be punished in some way that forces him to reign himself in at the very least.

@Bacle this thread isn't about @Abhorsen and vice versa... ...Please keep that in mind... We have plenty of things to discuss incoming from Iowa at the moment try not to get bogged down into too much bickering. That isn't the say anyone is breaking the rules just a preemptive warning to avoid...

Good and that is your prerogative as is anybody else who want to vote for him, however, don't ever blame others who don't, the man is derisive to say the least and some of his actions have more than justified some supporters in obtaining from voting for him. Also, Obama LOL I am sure Kamala...

Me neither, no offense but my problem with Vivek is that he comes across as a rightwing Andrew Yang mixed with Bloomberg hipster, but that is just my opinion and given how utterly bad our choices are I can't fault you for taking that option in line with your beliefs. I myself am only...