1. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    That would be interesting if it weren't for the fact that Ukraine's sole reason for moving to the EU is to get away from Russia's influence and Sweden and Finland joined in the 1990's when Russia was more or less distracted by internal problems.
  2. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    For the record I and a lot of people here agree Putin isn't trying to start a world war any more than most any other world leader, it takes two to tango after all. That being said, he protects what he sees as Russia's sphere of influence and if the U.S. gives him an inch to expand that and take...
  3. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    You are not. The missile had little to do with communism in Cuba over communist with nukes in Cuba.
  4. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    It may come as a shock to you, but the world superpower is literally only came into existence two hundred and fifty years ago and both Empires you mentioned no longer exist with their successor states only having bare basic claims to having the Ukraine under there 'influence' Now you are from...
  5. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    Forgive me @Bassoe I misread your words and I thought you were 'for' Ukraine attempting to join NATO.
  6. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    Because neither side will allow the other to occupy the country without a war being fought over it. If Ukraine announced tomorrow that they had secretly joined NATO the Russians would invade immediately even if it meant a possibility of war. To them giving it up might as well mean giving up...
  7. Free-Stater 101

    Russia(gate/bot) At what rate is NATO planning to invite in Ukraine? If NATO doesn't know, why is negotiating away a neutrality agreement a non-starter?

    Never. Ukraine has been historically an area of Russian influence since its inception and any attempt by them to join NATO will provoke a response before any paperwork is signed. Heck, the entire reason there is a conflict there at present is because they stepped out of line of being a neutral...
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