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  1. Firebat

    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    Well, if your theory of moral pre-1789 order is to be proven, there must be some difference before and after. Your proposition of universally accepted inequality as defining pre-1789 feature doesn't work as per above. Of course they did. It's not like there was much room for kings in...
  2. Firebat

    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    But that's not how the world worked before 1789. People did not behave like the inequality was natural and just. You open any history book and you drown in a torrent of noblemen who, giving zero shits about their station in life or alleged divine sanction, tried to become kings. Or make...
  3. Firebat

    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    What was that order? What properties did it possess?
  4. Firebat

    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    In which way did it collapse?
  5. Firebat

    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    For the same reason it always did: another war in Korea would be an awful bloodbath that would leave thousands of US servicemen dead and decimate South Korea. Between Korean fortifications in the mountains, their large military (that persists despite acquiring a nuke - again) and high likelihood...
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    History Where did Western Civilization go wrong?

    But large well trained army was not eliminated by the nuke - quite the opposite. In 1920s and 30s US military was somewhere between 250.000 and 350.000 men strong. After the 40s US military did not shrink, it exploded - always around 2 or 3 million strong till the very end of the Cold War...
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