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  1. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    I love the disconnect of the typical thinking that we are in dire need of a discussion about "enter some random sub-culture or fandom" and then argue that the defense of said fandom is pointless. It shows how weak the arguments are in the first place when instead of defending said criticisms...
  2. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    Yes but are later additions not historical? To use Memphis as a example many places commemorate Elvis Presley, should they not be considered a part of the history of a city because he came much later? And why are you skeptical? When was the last time you visited a southern city? Charleston...
  3. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    Except many of these buildings and parks actually fall into historical sites, which is why they are called "historic downtowns" to the point where they preserve at least the original appearance of the stone roads and offer horse rides. Savannah Georgia's downtown is built into the original port...
  4. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    Can you define the two? One could argue the entire united states is historical, we are hundreds of years old after all. Many places try to balance the need to preserve the site with the fact its still in use in some fashion. There is plenty of places where its historical, cultural, and...
  5. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    Another issue is where do we stop? People consider its an issue of simply statues, but like I've said the south is full of places that are essentially historical sites and have a similar problematic history. Are they next on the list? Should the south be forced to dismantle any site with a...
  6. Cyan Saiyajin

    United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

    Whatever the reasoning for their construction is I consider this stuff to be art and helps distinguish and decorate the south, its removal will accomplish nothing of value. Getting rid of them will not change minds in any sort of positive way, outside of making people who have lived around these...
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