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  1. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    In presidential elections? IIRC Trump got about 4.5 million votes in California in 2016, and about 6 million last year. All but one of the future Confederate states wouldn't allow even one for Lincoln.
  2. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    To add to what has been said, the American Civil War was as much an ideological conflict as it was an economic one. I've already spoken about the development of a thoroughly pro-slavery ideology in Southern circles in my first post here, so instead I'll limit myself to just the immediate pre-war...
  3. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    Well said. While I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Pemberton was a great general on the level of Grant (who, as you point out, simply blew poor Pemberton away with his seemingly impossible maneuvers in the Vicksburg campaign; that's why I've never been too keen on Confederate...
  4. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    So...on the topic of the Confederates' treatment post-war, would it really have been that bad to whack at least a few more politicians and egregiously criminal officers than just Henry Wirz? I'd understand if men like Lee were off-limits for purposes of not overly alienating the South, of...
  5. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    Good point, I imagine it just went along with their identification with the Cavalier side of the English Civil War too. And speaking of Scots, there's the strong Scots-Irish heritage among the Southern lower class that might explain their soldierly skills and inclination - I recall that the...
  6. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    I don't know, that might be the case for some, but the two biggest names among the Southern Unionists I can think of - Thomas & Farragut - seem to have genuinely been loyal to the Union and the idea of America as the United States rather than the United States, rather than being simply pragmatic...
  7. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    I found it an interesting irony that all the big-name Southern Unionist generals were pretty great at their jobs, while the Northern generals who joined the CSA seem to have been unexceptional at best to downright disastrous in command at worst: guys like Joseph Wheeler, John Pemberton, Simon...
  8. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    Honestly rather than tear down any Southern general's statues or memorials, I'd like to see a push to promote Southern Unionist generals, and Southern Unionists in general - they're a woefully overlooked part of the history around the American Civil War. Take George H. Thomas, for example: a...
  9. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    Re: slavery being a 'thing of the time', I don't think this was accurate by 1859-60. Britain and France had abolished slavery, and the former in particular was extremely aggressive about combating the slave trade all around the globe, while the latter had decisively shut down the Barbary slave...
  10. Circle of Willis

    Confederate history month

    Setting aside legalistic considerations about federal vs. state power, the institution of slavery in the South itself had been drifting in an increasingly dystopian direction (even for slavery) throughout the 19th century. To my understanding, by 1860 most slaveowners' view of it had evolved...
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