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The whole "World's Largest Economy" and "Everyone wants to do business in China" thing? Even in High School they were constantly talking about how futuristic China was, I remember even sleeping in one of their soundless trains once and barely feeling any movement at all the whole time And long...

Russia's the real OCP for them, then? The actual rival nation that doesn't simply have its own politicians and businessmen NOT being actual rivals with their "Great Reset" counterparts? The Hard Power to their Soft Power? Honestly, I think they're mostly just not thinking too much about it...

@Morphic Tide One thing I hope we at least move past in a sort of technological revolution way Is the use of long and expensive hours of classes in school and college, for people to be able to more or less teach themselves from a book, with minor help from premade or randomized online tests...

By “Space Amish but more advanced”, I meant they would be more religious or traditional or kinda nuclear-family-esque and more self reliant or only relying on a relatively small community If that is seen, it would be considered a possible social danger Or can’t allow these ones to live...

Yeah, though Asimov sorta had it that the Spacers had to become irrelevant because they were the ones who were stagnant or really slow in everything I remember a short story about how Earth was divided into multiple star nations and was gonna have to deal with an invasion by a powerful alien...

Even Isaac Asimov seems to agree with it....right up until he says a new Galactic Empire has to be made that’s “federalized”

@Skallagrim And even if FTL and FTL Communications and fast/easy arcologies and terraforming were possible I think there would be people purposely NOT contacting the homeworld

They will do this under the guise of “liberating” the settlers from non existent “robber barons” and say they’ll be there to “help” and “advise” said settlers They can’t allow them to become a symbol or example that goes against their paradigm Failing an invasion, they’ll probably try sending...

When I think about it, this is sounding like the backstories of some Libertarian SciFi that have the plot of “Earth is fucked, let’s leave” With the side effect that Earth is gonna come for them at some point, both because they need a scapegoat and because they will be able to get lots of tax...

Yup, but as I’ve pointed out they were also all very flawed people who committed terrible crimes against one another and in the earlier times they had no problem with destroying local alien environments to suit their needs whilst the Spacers took things slow and moderated things to avoid stuff...

It helps to lack an enemy, particularly an enemy who would actually fight you If it weren’t for say, nukes and maybe secret bioweapons and the infiltrators or useful idiots, they would have to deal with an enemy without mercy Relying on your enemy being merciful as you stab their faces and...

Also, they solve their population problem with say, artificial wombs

I think this vid of Isaac Arthur based on the concept of Isaac Asimov maybe relevant I’ll say this, the settlers and their descendents from Robots/Galactic Empire/Foundation were far from perfect They had outright warlordism, feudalism, slavery and serfdom and used unhealthy and dangerous...

Say, did the Roman Empire get really insane in this sort of way Yeah, I know they were full of pedarasts, but I think even they would sorta be ashamed of embracing this sort of stuff in public