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  1. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    All true. The best land for yeomen would be north of that line. As to the Mississippi - by 1863, as I've written elsewhere, the precedent of rivers being international waters like the High Seas already exists. And with the ease of grabbing Canada in 1785 the St. Lawrence Seaway could come almost...
  2. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    Couldn't the two American countries simply agree on a 38N border (latitude of southern Wee-Vee)? All along to the Shinning Sea at the Other Side? Suddenly the Eire Canal becomes very strategic - it gives access to the three central lakes - that's most of the Old North West. And provides much...
  3. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    In such case I have a feeling that the ACW ends with a draw, i.e. a CSA win. The Western Front was wiped out. There will be no victories at Vicksburg or Atlanta to cheer up the war weary (or war hostile) population. Only the inconclusive blood baths in Virginia. And there is no way around...
  4. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    1785 Important question - 1785 or 1863 state borders? Look at Virginia and Georgia on the map ... If 1863 - the western armies of both countries are gone. It is purely an ANV verus Army of the Potomac match.
  5. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    Well, the USA is somewhat otherwise occupied. With the CSA. In the meantime knowledge about those gold fields leaks out and Britain or France or jointly as an Axis of Evul! swoop in with guaranties of Mexico's borders. Or steal that land for themselves. Think a Pastry War writ large. The USA has...
  6. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    I succumbed to my curiosity and checked. Jerome Bonaparte's son is in the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_Napol%C3%A9on_Bonaparte The eldest grandson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Napoleon_Bonaparte_II is lost with the ISOT, as he was Fighting For France. But his...
  7. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    Amazing what a google search can find on Deviantart, eh? :p A skimming of the wiki on 1864 House elections suggests the ISOT producing a small net gain for the Dems/peacniks. Remember that the Emancipation Declaration concerned slaves ONLY in yet unconquered territories. Interesting point...
  8. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    It would not the Feds nor Confeds doing this - but Concerned Private Citizens showing up at Versaillies with a few books ... I trust the Internationally Recognised French Authorities doing the rest :) Maybe testing the guilottine on the necks of the never to be heads of the Revolution? The...
  9. Buba

    ISOT WI select Union and Confederate states and forces ISOT from Jan 1863 to Jan 1823?

    In both cases the USA list of states looks impressive - but that's due to the length padded by such inconsequential non-entities like Rhode Island, Vermont, Maine or Delaware. Nifty map (should be accurate ... ): The CSA loses Arkansas and Texas, both cut off and/or lost anyway. The USA loses...
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