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The "Haha" was the quote above. I agreement with the rest, even if I'm not sure if there would be buffer states to the west or southwest - France is too aggressive and would end up as direct neighbour. BTW - I prepare the Scriptures in Pikard and Waloon - and start mass printing in 1520 or so...

I also am leaning towards Naughtious as I have a feeling that he'd be more controlable. Wilhelm gives off vibes of being a tougher man. Also, this is the ONE chance to grab Kleve-Mark while there might be an opportunity to marry the Julich-Berg heiress in the future. If she isn't butterflied and...

To finish with the infodump and map pr0n: As you can see, on the "central German" (Frankish) dialect continuum Kleve and Julich are either inside the "Dutch" zone, or border on it. Both would be closer to standard Nederlands than the northern part of Netherlands, which speaks a form of Lower...

Imagine that you are SI'ed into Mary of Burgundy, the Heiress of the Burgundian inheritance. Once Daddy Dearest (Charles the Bold) does his "suicide by Swiss infantry" act you grab the reigns of power, do the "heads, spikes, walls" PR thing (or maybe aim for Mary the Impaler moniker?) to impress...