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I won't say you don't have a point there, some governments are genocidal. The thing is, I can be in favor of having a prison system without wanting gulags. I can be in favor of the death penalty without wanting death camps. I can be in favor of having a police force without wanting them to...

Ya'll keep missing the point. Conscription isn't about making people sign up to defend the regime. You don't conscript people to fight. You conscript people for a year or two of training. The kind of conscription where you just grab a guy off the street, put a rifle in his hands, and point...

Harm does not equal slavery either, else it would have been slavery when I strained my back schlepping packages for UPS. Now, that this harm means conscription is immoral, that's very much an argument worth having and honestly one I'd agree with. However calling it slavery is just the old...

Slavery has never been defined as "forced labor" except by Libertarians, much in the same way nobody else thinks taxation is theft and nobody else makes a distinction between negative and positive rights to justify why the rights they value are righter than the ones other people value. It's...

They're not, and that's not the definition of Slavery. You're just trying to redefine something by using the wrong word and mistaking pedantry for real argument. Slavery where you get paid wages for your work, have a set retirement, and get a pension for your service is a hella weird...