1. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    A) Publically owned entities are just as, if not more, corrupt than privately owned ones. While it might be a close thing, I might actually trust Apple more than I would the ATF. B) There's a million and seventy ways for a corrupt judge, system, and lawyers to lead the jury by the nose. Just...
  2. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    Really not comfortable with this idea. We've had way too many jails for profit turning out to be in bed with crooked judges to increase conviction rates and increase profits. In general, when the state has a profit motive to abuse its citizens, that leads to bad places.
  3. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    Not necessarily. Flogging is a rather broad term (outside British law where it was always very specifically a cat 'o nine tails) and there's a heck of a lot of difference between 300 lashes to the back with a bullwhip or flagellum (probably lethal) and ten strokes on the buttocks from a birch...
  4. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    Additionally, solutions that can work for Singapore just won't work anywhere else. It's a micronation island with a 100% urbanized and fully contained population and no borders.
  5. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    Uh... no? That's US Court stuff that has been invoked all the way up to the Supreme Court and is treated as the current standard. I tend to agree on corporal punishments, there would be a lot of benefit to both the criminal and society. Flogging is a bit extreme, for cases like shoplifting I...
  6. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    You are hitting the quintessential issue. By definition, any punishment is going to have some aspect of cruelty because otherwise, it isn't a punishment. And yes, Justice Brennan himself concluded that any death penalty was cruel and unusual by those standards.
  7. Bear Ribs

    A perfect example of why the electric chair is needed for some. (Arguments concerning criminal executions and methods)

    The standard for what constitutes cruel and unusual punishment was set by Justice William Brennan. In Furman v. Georgia. The "essential predicate" is "that a punishment must not by its severity be degrading to human dignity", especially torture. "A severe punishment that is obviously inflicted...
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