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  1. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Your example isn't really applicable. Of course you'd be fine if you gunned down a school shooter, charging you would be political suicide. The issue is when there's any grey area whatsoever. I'm going off of what I was taught during my CCL training, where it was repeatedly stated that lethal...
  2. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    I think you're describing something that's more along the lines of a moral right to self defense rather than what's legal. The legal standard is imminent threat, as in "is on the verge of killing someone right this very second". If someone is not threatening to kill someone right that second...
  3. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    You have a legal right to your opinion, yes. And if you're someone with a lot of influence who people trust and take action based on what you say, opinion or otherwise, you also have a moral duty to avoid tossing out authoritative sounding hot takes when you can't back them up with anything but...
  4. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Perhaps the "opinion" standard should be revisited then. As you say later, it's certainly important and can't be discarded, but I think there should also be a legal distinction drawn between "based on X snd Y, in conclusion I believe that Y is true" and "here's some BS I invented out of thin air...
  5. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Odds aren't good, thanks the state of US libel laws, but best of luck to him. I suppose there's a tiny, tiny chance he gets the SC to take another look at Sullivan, but I doubt it.
  6. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Possible. The one issue I can see with that is the claim it was the libelous comments specifically that made him a public figure, vs the incident in general making him a public figure and the libelous comments were merely part of the overall media coverage.
  7. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    To be clear, this is not a thread about OJ, he's just a point of comparison. If you want to argue the specifics of the case, make a thread for that, in this thread you'll just to cope with the fact that, regardless of your personal belief, the overwhelming majority of people think OJ was guilty...
  8. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Perhaps. The issue is Sandman's suits were all confidentially settled and so we have no idea what happened, whereas OJ not suing under similar circumstances is a matter of public record.
  9. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    True, but as I said in my edit, it's very hard to get a judgement in a case like this. To once again reference OJ, he was very short on cash after losing a civil suit to his victim's families, but never tried to claim damages against any of the many, many, many high profile people who had openly...
  10. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    This is apparently fake, and on a quick skim I can't find any record of the actual suit to disprove claims that it is fake. Or at least it's fake for now, we'll see if it retroactively becomes true later.....which sadly I don't think will happen. It's very hard to sue people for statements of...
  11. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Maybe. The concept sounds good, but lots of things sound good in concept. The issue is the precise mechanism employed: I don't know how you would break down evidence by percentages like this. Usually, when people say something like "I'm 90% sure he's guilty", there's nothing actually backing...
  12. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    The "they were trying to stop an active shooter" claim is, as far as I know, purely an invention of the prosecution, it wasn't suggested beforehand and Gage, the only surviving attacker who's identity is known, didn't testify to that effect. Gage is insanely luckily he didn't get charged with...
  13. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    It's not exactly against the rules. That's pretty much what I'd expect any delusional leftist partisan to say, SB/SV are full of said partisans, so not surprising. Anything more specific should go in the dedicated thread. That reaction is such an immensely dumb take. Even if once accepts the...
  14. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Media Found Guilty On All Counts Rioters Flee In Terror As Kyle Rittenhouse Emerges From Courthouse With AR-15
  15. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    This response isn't a surprise, the ACLU has been little more than a bog standard leftist advocacy group wearing the skin of a once principled group for years now. They're getting savaged in the replies. Deservingly.
  16. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Yes, a guy named Joshua Ziminski. He has been charged with a few crimes he committed that night, not sure if that's one of them.
  17. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    I think that might just be a procedural thing they do after every not guilty vote or a formal acknowledgement of the verdict. Because otherwise dismissing or not dismissing charges does nothing in this case, he cannot legally be retried ever.
  18. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Unfortunately, other people weren't lucky enough and will be facing legal consequences. Every Man In America Except Kyle Rittenhouse Found Guilty Of Not Showing Up In Kenosha To Help Their Fellow Americans
  19. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    Not guilty on all counts!
  20. Battlegrinder

    Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

    No.
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