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  1. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    All of @LindyAF's posts about random crimes have been removed from the thread as a derail. Do not post anything else like that in this thread unless it's relevant to this thread. And explain what relevance it has, because the staff was not able to discern the point of the previous comments.
  2. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    That's not quite correct. Waging war against the United States is treasonous period, regardless of if you're fighting against the US independently or as an ally of a foreign power. The issue is that treason can, obliviously, only be engaged in by a countries own citizens, and doesn't apply to...
  3. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    Your argument here doesn't seem to be in line with the actual facts. Take this article from 2008, which notes that statues and monuments are part of the legacy of that now-dead ideology, but draws a distinction between being the legacy of that ideology and being a part of it, a distinction you...
  4. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    As has been noted previously, the Lost Cause Mythos was largely crushed during the civil rights era, you're just not aware of it because as @S'task pointed out, you don't actually know what the lost cause was and are conflating it with "anything that doesn't paint the south as evil traitors"...
  5. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I would have thought the guy most likely make some sort of "despite only making up 13% of the population" post would understand the important of putting numbers in the correct context.
  6. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I'm not looking at numbers, I'm looking at rates, and generally speaking the white on black murder rate is within a few points of the black on white rate. That said, I'll admit it's been a while since I've checked, and looking at more recent data there is a wider disparity then there was in the...
  7. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    That's true, but you're misatributing causes a bit here. While there is an obvious racial component, that's not the key bit, the part that makes it go viral is the fact that it's someone getting shot by the police. A death caused by the police is longer merely a conflict between citizens, it's...
  8. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I'd also like an answer as to what the intended point of these posts is, @LindyAF , before I'm forced to draw my own conclusions. Because given that most murders and other violent crimes are intraracial and interracial crimes occur at approximately the same right amoung white and black...
  9. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I think you're being slightly unfair here. Six ex-confederate officers, who's wartime service was apparently so insignificant it doesn't even merit a mention in any sources I can find, formed a social club that eventually evolved into something darker. That is true, yes, but you're acting like...
  10. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I don't follow. If you hate the confederates (or more cynically, hate the GOP and are projecting that hate onto the confederates), it seems logical that you won't have a similar level of hostility toward the union.
  11. Battlegrinder

    The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

    I'm inclinded to generally with fried's position, for the same reason I did last time this came up. I'm no Supreme Court historian, I have no idea how to evaluate Taney's actions and understand why he took them, nor di I have any insight on his legacy and significance. Which is precisely why his...
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