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  1. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    While that's true, I think the actual issue is getting obscured/poorly articulated by the likes of Watchdog. The issue is not that all trans people are sex offenders or something, the problem is that we have sex segregated spaces for a reason, and forcing them to become gender segregated...
  2. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    So, can anyone clarity what's the actual point being discussed here? After reading the last half dozen or so pages, I'm not able to figure out what people are debating, or if there even is a debate. To my understanding, we still know so little about how the brain functions that there's no...
  3. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    I think Shadow is slightly off base in regards to the effectiveness of SRS as a long term treatment for people with gender dysphoria, as far as I'm aware it has a negligible impact on reducing the suicide rate in trans people, which is the main argument I've seen pushed in it's favor and for why...
  4. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Bacle has been threadbanned for at least the next 48 hours for increasingly uncivil behavior. I suggest everyone else learn from his example and express their disagreement in a less hostile manner. I am very well aware this issue is something that is very important to people, and that tempers...
  5. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    That sounds like you're picked your conclusion and are working backwards from that to devise justifications, rather than having you beliefs be based in a consistent set of principles.
  6. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    That's another goalpost shift. You attacked LGBT marriage on the grounds of it being a fetish, not that it wasn't a man and a women.
  7. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    As noted, for one, that's not what a fetish is. Two, even if it was a fetish....ok? Fetish's aren't illegal, if you want to have a BDSM wedding you can, why is that legal while a gay one isn't? Pedophilia is different because it's harmful.
  8. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    "Stare decisis" doesn't mean "courts must adhere to any and all precedents forever". It's a policy that's meant to encourage consistency with past rulings, but that has limits, it would be completely insane to have a judicial system that's forbidden from going back and admitting that previous...
  9. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    To maybe shift away from the specific issues of trans people and get discussion more focused around the ideas and legal reaction, would it be reasonable to consider SRS, crossdressing and other things trans people do to pass as their chosen gender as being broadly similar to piecing, tattoos...
  10. Battlegrinder

    LGBT and the US Conservative Movement

    Afternoon, everyone. Just here to say the staff is happy with how this debate is going, and that despite the contentious topic, you all have been generally civil and well behaved. We encourage you continue to do that going forward.
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