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One would've been completely correct to have done so.

The real question we should be asking here is, what does NATO get out of Ukraine joining that'd outweigh the increased risk of nuclear war? You'd have thought we'd have learned our lesson about stupid alliances forcing world powers to go to war with each other over irreverent balkans countries...

No, I simply don't care about Ukraine in any manner save for "will neocons wanting to defend it cause WW3". As I see it, "we go to war to prevent Russia from conquering Ukraine" is an actual threat to us while "Russia conquers Ukraine" is only a threat to the ukrainians and can be safely ignored...

I'm gonna be completely honest, if some ROB made me president of France, Prime Minister of England, Chancellor of Germany or some other high-ranking EU position of authority and the Russians bluffed, I'd fold without the slightest hesitation. The potential benefits of "Ukraine as an EU/NATO...

Why? All Europe needs to ensure their own safety is nuclear MAD, if attempting to establish or maintain a buffer state increases the risk of war with a nuclear superpower it's objectively making Europe less safe.