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  1. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Basically, is this thread supposed to be discussing surviving in a post-peak-resources, post-nuclear, post-climate-armageddon apocalyptic world, or what rules should be established during the creation of a new society to avoid repeating this one's more catastrophic problems?
  2. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    We get vassalized by foreign-backed puppet regimes, officially to stop the violence, unofficially, to loot everything they can get their grubby mitts on. There's no New US, or rather, multiple New USs, each with a different backer. They're officially politically independent, but have their...
  3. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Probably can be divided into the following four categories: Self-Inflicted: The cultural war escalates to an actual civil war or automation eats enough of the jobs market that 'people the system has discarded' become numerous enough to threaten the system's stability. Mutually Assured...
  4. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    One other thing we haven't dealt with yet, what's gonna happen with American forces left abandoned abroad? In countries which were being defended by the US (NATO, Japan, South Korea, etc), apply for refugee status/citizenship in exchange for turning over all your equipment and skills to your...
  5. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Humanity hadn't dug up all the oil reachable without sophisticated technologies in prehistoric times. Unless you're proposing that the Turboslavs and Kangdom expended earth's entire supply of phlebotinum and if we ever get into space, our civilization's technological technology will be the...
  6. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Why do I hate cold war-era military planners? Have you seen their track record? What disasters that we're dealing with now weren't directly their fault? Forever war against jihadist savages living atop oil supplies? They armed and trained them. China economically beating us? They allowed china...
  7. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    It probably won't work. Step one will be the division of the country into lots of factions, right after the apocalypse, along both ideological and 'we don't have enough food, go steal some from the neighbors' lines. Step two is said factions fighting each other, until an equilibrium is reached...
  8. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Why would said nations be willing to share supplies they'd now need, regardless of past agreements?
  9. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Why on earth would you listen to whatever they had to say? They just directly caused the deaths of all your friends and family, the destruction of your nation and they have no means of enforcing their will upon you. They should be lucky if your response isn't a nuclear bunker-buster missile on...
  10. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    Which leaves the questions of, 'who's in charge now' and 'how are we resupplying'. Best bet, the crew of each ship find themselves a coastal community, in the former US or otherwise, which was sized such that they had enough people to sustain agriculture but not too many that they needed more...
  11. Bassoe

    Rebuilding the U.S. after the mad max has fizzled out.

    The important question is, did whatever unspecified apocalypse happened also reduce the rest of the world to mad maxhood or was that just an American thing? Because unless the rest of the world was busy with their own comparable problems, everyone else would be taking advantage of the...
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