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  1. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    We've already got that. The modern American empire already goes out of its way to enforce its wokeist state religion on its vassals, even when this is clearly counterproductive towards actual imperialism because they don't like or want it so it's just harming our reputation. Likewise, the empire...
  2. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Unclear leaning on no. A civilization without readily accessible oil and coal couldn’t build fission reactors or powersats from scratch without a preexisting energy source for industrialization and woodburning/wood gasification seems to run into scaling issues where trees aren’t growing fast...
  3. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    The petroleum’s the problem. We need it to build industrial infrastructure in the first place but we’ve dug out everything accessible without preexisting industrial infrastructure. So if our civilization collapses, we can’t rebuild to current technological levels.
  4. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    The problem being, that the simplest means of simultaneously "neutralizing" both nuclear weaponry and the current world order is their use, followed by technological regression because of logistics cascade failures and the collapse of existing nations.
  5. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I'm unsure of what thread you're talking about, but yeah, we could absolutely use a discussion of What Inventions Could Break Marcohistoric Prediction Models and their likely consequences. I'd argue we've already got one in nuclear weapons and MAD deterrence. A nation can be as decadent and...
  6. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Counterargument to this, something historic equivalents didn't have an equivalent parallel for, MAD deterrence. By which I mean, let's try an altered version of your proposed timeline. Everything plays out right like you described it until; The problem being, the Optimates aren't rational...
  7. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I strongly recommend reading Fitzpatrick's War by Theodore Judson, it's basically this train of thought as a novel. https://ruinedchapel.com/2023/02/24/book-review-fitzpatricks-war-by-theodore-judson/ The modern neoliberal globalist American Empire has fallen. The Confederacy of the Yukon...
  8. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    This assumes Caesar's politics are reactionary and he originates as some politician or warlord using populism to justify his regime. Michael Anton and Charles Haywood are way too optimistic with their assumption that any Caesar figure motivated by anything but their personal politics would be...
  9. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I assume America undergoing their own version of the Spanish Civil War or otherwise occupying themselves to the point where they can't project power beyond their continent is an essential prerequisite for European civil wars, insofar as the oligarchy would use American military force to maintain...
  10. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I'd rate it as much more likely that we see mass conversions to sunni islam among disillusioned westerners looking to exploit the perceived double standards of wokeism allowing muslims to behave as reactionarily as they like. That or some entirely new religion.
  11. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Understandable and arguably the basis of the Israeli nuclear policy. TL;DR even in their worst case scenario of America collapsing or being governed by populists and no longer being able or willing to fight their wars for them, Israel is going to be fine.
  12. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    This already happened, see WW2 and the marshall plan for further details.
  13. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I'm confused about what hypothetical conflict you're envisioning here: The propagandists and their Chamberlain-Hitler comparisons are actually right after all, after finishing off Ukraine, Putin will come for the rest of Europe and we'll have to intervene to save them, which somehow won't...
  14. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    It hasn't worked for them either. Selling out their countries' industrial prowess and demoralizing their populations might've made them richer on paper, but has left them potentially too weak to force everyone else to play along with their system. These idiots made a grave miscalculation. They...
  15. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Our land, aka, our own country, is protected by nuclear MAD deterrent. Everything else is just proxy wars which make us less safe by allowing our corporations the opportunity to outsource. If you wouldn’t blow up the world rather than lose any given conflict, it doesn’t existentially matter to...
  16. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    My point is, if the guiding cornerstone of future American society is to "do what worked historically", why would they be imperialists? The American empire has been an unmitigated disaster for the American people. The military-industry complex and security state it created attempt to justify...
  17. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Yes, I know the current system doesn't work and following alternative systems which have been previously tested and demonstrated to work would be better. However, said systems would inconvenient the rulers of the current system and while they're getting less powerful as the current status quo...
  18. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I'm still confused. The notion that all civilizations inevitably become more authoritarian and stratified over time until increasing nepotism leads to a ruling class too incompetent to manage logistics creating civilization-destroying cascade failures or defend themselves against violent...
  19. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    EU and western europe in general. Actively destroying what little industries they've got left, dependent on hostile foreigners for fuel, with a native birthrate below replacement and different hostile foreigners being imported en mass who are already set up to demographically become the new...
  20. Bassoe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    isreal Why? The American evangelicals who need Israel to exist so it can be destroyed in their end times prophecy are a dying demographic, with younger generations seeing Israel as monstrous apartheid occupiers picking on the poor innocent little Palestinians (left) or the assholes bribing our...
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