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And these things helped fuel wars, and caused much more devastation than even the wars they did cause or the wars that caused them. Which would suggest that our dichtonomy is actually a false one. Also, wars also helped stop said things too. Agreed. But even despite that, most of casualties of...

Whether war is or is not the worst thing which can happen / worst thing which humans can cause. I believe it is not, Zachowon believes it is.

Nope. 1) War can destroy the economy and lifestyle of a country, yes. So can a dictatorship, or a plague. In fact, efforts to construct a "perfect society" by various ideologies (most obviously Communism and Nazism) were far more lethal than warfare - and that is without accounting for the fact...

My point is that your worldview is based on wrong premise: that mass slaughter and suffering only happen during the war, and/or cannot be prevented by the war. If you do not want to discuss it any more, fine, but I will ask you to think about what I said: that war can be used to prevent...

And none of that was a direct consequence of the war itself. If US and other Allies had decided not to fight the Japanese, brutalization that Japanese did would have still happened. If Nazis were not opposed in a war, their genocides would still have been carried out. Fact is, when somebody has...

And again, I am not saying that the war is not a terrible thing, just that it is not the WORST thing that can happen. Why is that so hard to understand? You really thing you would rather live through Holocaust / Holodomor / etc., or even your average totalitarian regime, than through an average...

Except most wars are not "to the genocide" (though some admittedly are). Governmental policies however can easily lead to such purely by accident - and it won't always be an accident. For every government, main enemy are its own people.

If you are in an active warzone and your whole city is being bombed into the stone age you can still hide in the basement. I know people who did so. You really think that is somehow worse than letting government (or somebody else) decide whether you live or die without being able to get your own...

Moved reply from here to avoid offtopicing. My point was that all of them have launched - in many cases unprovoked - attacks against other countries. And no, war is not the worst thing which can happen, or else nobody would ever fight them. The worst thing is when somebody else decides your...