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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Actually, current NATO borders are about 70km from St. Petersburg already. The main thing that makes Finland attractive (besides Sanna Marin) is that they are astride the only road and rail link between St. Pete & Moscow on the one hand and the military bases (air and naval) and the Plesetsk...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    Or that Sweden actually covered for the U.S. a few times during the Cold War despite ostensibly being neutral…most famously protecting an SR-71 to keep the Soviets from shooting it down/forcing it down. Not to mention the whining over “liberalism” in Sweden is way overblown, especially in light...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    It’s partly the failure to get what he wants from the U.S. and also partly that he’s really, really pissed off about the moralizing Sweden has been doing about welcoming Kurds and Turkish dissidents for the past several years. Some of his gripes are just him throwing a tantrum, sure, but as...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    “This guy with whom we are allied is bothering us. We should destroy his country in such a way so as to screw ourselves for the foreseeable future by provoking a genocide in the region.” Are you sure you haven’t confused the American outlook on allies and defensive agreements with the Russian...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    By your logic, we should get rid of the countries Americas because our ancestors originally came from Europe. Because the Turks (that is, what we know as the Turkish people today) have been there a hell of a lot longer than Europeans have been in the Americas. Other than the occasional Greek...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    I don’t know if I’d have put it quite so colorfully, but basically this. Sure, a conservative may have some concerns about European progressivism and whatnot*, but a friendly country that occupies a strategic position in the Baltics and actually has maintained a capable military because they...
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    Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

    As stated above, it’s a deterrence thing, especially given that with Finland primed to slice off the Kola Peninsula (seriously, there is one rail line and one road from Moscow/St. Petersburg to it…and they’re in a heavily forested area running next to each other. At the other end? The Plesetsk...
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