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  1. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    Yeah. Also they should be able to dig coal at some point.
  2. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    As Chiron said, there ain't enough vodka and cigarettes to do that. Then again, he was referencing a Polish bear, those probably work for more.
  3. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    We are omnivores, though.
  4. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    Point taken, however IMHO I think the difference is a few generations of selective breeding. Keep in mind that attempts to domesticate these humpy moocows have been going on for, what, 200 years at most, with lots of alternate livestock around and hence diminishing returns. Given time and...
  5. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    IMHO they'd need to domesticate some livestock for that, also develop writing, which came about thanks to agriculture. Without some form of beast of burden, they would have massive trouble expanding inland or building anything more than a kilometer or two from the nearest longship port. Which...
  6. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    Sounds like Slavs back in soviet times. No wonder commies flourished in Latin America, same diet. I doubt it is good for your health, though, the potato can not have every single nutrient we need, including fats, proteins, vitamins, irreplaceable amino-acids, micro-elements and the like.
  7. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    What about fats? Where are potatoes in the scheme of things, I am pretty sure they came from the Americas? Could they get enough animal protein, amino acids and fats from fish and other sea and waterborne life plus some other crops? What about bird domestication? Maybe they can get some of...
  8. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    Interesting, that makes Santa Claus sort of a bandit I suppose. But maybe the Mooses here and in North America are different breeds. This and the Oxen/Buffalo business leads us to bigger problems, like animal domestication. Corn is very much inferior to wheat where almost everything aside...
  9. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    One reason why Eurasia has so many bugs is because we used to live much closer to our livestock and some people in the Far East liked to experiment with "exotic" food, so it is not density, alone. Depending on how extensive and interconnected the North America river systems are I say they...
  10. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    I am pretty sure that the first civilization, aka City state with writing, was in the fertile crescent, and there they were focused on grains. Was the fishing in the Tigris and Euphrates actually any good? Also, it probably depends on your definition of city. Civilization IMHO means 100%...
  11. Agent23

    Iron Revolution in Michigan 2500 BCE

    How suitable are Bison for domestication? Also, tame buffalo, which is basically a huge cow from what I understand, will be nice, but horses will be a lot more useful. I was actually flirting with an idea about a scenario where the Chukchi illegal immigrants somehow manage to bring some horses...
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