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  1. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    In order: The diplomatic win if Russia did it hoping to harm America would be incredibly minor unless they did a better frame job. The cost in income to russia, however, is not minor. The diplomatic cost of Russia not being able to subvert the EU countries economically is major. Yes, every...
  2. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    And you think I didn't? As for the rest: This is the confirmation to hunches I already had. Everyone with a brain knew it was in America's best interest for the Nordstream Pipeline to go away, and against Russian interests. The only open question for me was if the German Government cooperated...
  3. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    ... You do know that's because of electromagnetic field right? A field that wouldn't exist in a bomb. Oh, and people still lay cable, because it works despite the vaunted power of nature. And we put underwater pipes in, despite nature. And we put trackers on sharks, that work despite nature...
  4. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    You can't. I can't. But people who are specialized in this? They can. Given they can put a submarine underwater for a long time, I've no doubt they can put a stationary bomb with a listening device underwater for that long also. Calling this impossible is just dumb. We've stuck mines underwater...
  5. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    There is 100% a way they would do that. First, this is reportedly Biden's demand, so it being stupid isn't inconceivable. But I don't even think it's stupid. You have an apparently hard to infiltrate place (Russia closely watches the Baltic, and has satellites). You have about a week where you...
  6. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    When the source violated the law to tell something this big, this is the best one can get. There is no other method available that could give better information. The question is on two parts, do we trust Hersh? Yes, given his other work. Then the question is do we trust the source? Given that...
  7. Abhorsen

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    So old news that got a new update, and I figured I'd take a small victory lap along with everyone here who had the common sense to know it wasn't Russia: America blew up the Nordstream Pipeline (apparently with Norway's help)...
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