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  1. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    The marshals have a very limited role now. They're actually seconded to the US federal court system. So protection for judges, baliffs, witness protection, Con Air, and apprehending fugitives. But they really never have been classic national police. They don't investigate or gather evidence...
  2. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    The marshals have a very limited role now. They're actually seconded to the US federal court system. So protection for judges, baliffs, witness protection, Con Air, and apprehending fugitives. But they really never have been classic national police. They don't investigate or gather evidence...
  3. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    Called the FBI. And they only are supposed to do federal crimes, but slowly that's expanded and expanded what that includes.
  4. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    The problem with your solutions overall, IMO, is the reliance on government while at the same time attacking government. Realistically, you'll get one or the other, not both. And relying on government to solve problems is just asking to be disappointed. On specific points: Quite bluntly, the...
  5. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    Did you even read the thing I wrote above the part you quoted? I didn't treat it as a binary thing at all, and I haven't been. I literally walked through every combination in that post. I agree with all of these. Part 4 basically already exists: spend 18 years growing up in America, or spend...
  6. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    I'm not sure I'm getting what you are proposing here in regards to birthright citizenship. The proposal issued was to allow birthright citizenship for people with at least one parent who's a legal permanent resident. Now either illegal's kids get citizenship, permanent residence, or nothing...
  7. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    Not a citizen, but a legal resident. There are laws designed to keep illegal residents from working in the US (which, fair enough in the current scenario, but that plus generations of illegal residents in the US leads to problems.
  8. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    You are missing my objection: if we have an underclass that's permanent, we basically are creating a huge, systemic problem. They will not have homes/family outside of the US, because they would have lived here for generations. They won't likely have any citizenship, so we still cannot send them...
  9. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    "Arrest the bootleggers and there won't be alcohol, simple." "Arrest the drug dealers and there won't be drugs, simple." And I could go on. It's not just too good for the elite to fix, it's too good for anyone to fix, even if they wanted too. Yes, I am generally in favor of stronger border...
  10. Abhorsen

    Debate on the U.S.'s long term strategic and technological goals in an increasingly multi-polar world.

    See, I don't like illegal immigration, but this leads to far worse problems: a) now it's harder to prove citizenship, and b) (far worse) the creation of a permanent underclass of illegal non-citizens in the US that grows over time. That doesn't lead to good places.
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