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  1. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Eh, let him cook. He announced some would be held back because of some, actually legit, security concerns (likely what exit routes are supposed to be taken, etc). He also plans to set up a location where the public can view those hours themselves, just not post it online, IIRC.
  2. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    You can barely see some discoloration on top, to the right of the index figure. That's the mouth piece. Zooming in on the original helps, but not that much.
  3. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    That in particular was actually a vape. There's definitely feds there, but that's not one. There's a community notes on that. That guy in particular got 4 years in prison...
  4. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Kinda. I'm of two minds of this. One, I don't know that I can trust them in the future anymore. On the other hand, ensuring that people have a way out of the problem is how you creating a winning threat.
  5. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Huh, I think the key thing would be that the cops destroyed it, you may have a legal argument there, but as @Terthna points out, I wouldn't want to test it, there are tiers of justice in the US.
  6. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Look, I'm telling you what has happened: People on the right tended to not look for news about prisoners being treated badly, and when shown they mostly ignored it. The idea that we are special is a wrong one. I'm not special, people on this site aren't special, nobody is. The stories were there...
  7. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    But there wasn't. When this was done for decades to people caught for misdemeanors, no sympathy was given. Look, There absolutely is something broken in the criminal justice system. But people on the right are only seeing it now because wrongfully prosecuted people are being put through it that...
  8. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    That's the thing though. A lot of prisoners are treated badly this way. It's not being done special for the J6 protestors, there's just enough of them that they fall through the same cracks in the system all other prisoners fall through. Endless waits for trials and horrific pretrial conditions...
  9. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    So this is horrific, no questions asked. But also not uniquely horrific. This cell already existed before J6, and held prisoners then. And nearly no one deserves to live like this, unless they should be on death row (and even then, we don't want the government doing it because it teaches...
  10. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Eh, calling it 'conservative' is a misnomer (as is to call it leftist or liberal or whatever), as conservative now doesn't necessarily mean conservative then, and conservative means different things on different sides of the Atlantic (same with the other phrases). I'd say it's a revolt in favor...
  11. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Why should benefit of the doubt be given to a governmental system that has consistently shown they do not deserve it?
  12. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Good. Most local laws are bs. Don't enforce them. DC is maybe the one exception, as they don't have state laws, but still, they got a ton of BS laws.
  13. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    No it doesn't. It makes it sound like every other time the cops shot someone wrongly. They always act like this.
  14. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Fondly remembering the time all the vile people in washington who are fond of bombing innocents in Yemen felt a millionth of that fear. Now was it for a stupid ass reason? Yes. But that fear was great. The government should fear its citizens.
  15. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Jones did nothing illegal, is how I'd put it. It was awful of him to accuse grieving parents of lying with little to no justification. But it isn't illegal. Complaining about power != complaining about Jews.
  16. Abhorsen

    Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

    Just stop right there, and everything's better.
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