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Not really applicable here except for the federal charge (president can't pardon state crimes). But the federal conviction is likely helping him more than hurting him, as it might not add time, but does mean he's spending time in a federal prison not a state one, and state prisons can be far...

Yeah. I'm unsure if the Minnesota statute has "cause" in their felony murder. My real issue with it is the non-requirement of a unrelated felony. Basically, they allowed the assualt to qualify as the felony for the felony murder, when the felony assault itself killed Floyd (according to the...

And you are correct. TBC, I wasn't endorsing the eggshell theory, just explaining it. But Felony murder can get a ton stupider than this. Literally to the level of a getaway driver/girlfriend being guilty of murder because the cops shot and killed her robber boyfriend (not a hypothetical...

Basically, 3rd degree in Minnesota was very specific, and meant firing into a crowd at random or similar (killing someone at random). If you were guilty of planning to murder X, you were innocent of 3rd degree murder, basically. Note Chauvin didn't get a 1st degree charge though. He got some...

Eh, Gorsuch ain't bad (honestly I view him as a better Scalia). But I get your point.

TBC, I think he should be convicted. I just hate that a conviction came after threats by congresswoman, and don't think that's the right way to do things.

I'm not interested in whether the police deserve anything. In fact, I'm fairly hostile to police rights generally, and think that more should be prosecuted, and qualified immunity needs to go away and be replaced with something like a 'reasonableness standard' or the like. I simply believe that...

I remember I was really wrong about him being guilty of 3rd degree murder, as I was pretty sure, but that was tossed out. I didn't think he was guilty of second degree either, I don't think, but I could have been wrong about that, it was a while ago.

Sadly I agree. Personally, as I stated before, I think the trial should be overturned, and found guilty on retrial. Also, I think that the second degree conviction was a reach (but again, that was a while ago). Social cohesion-wise, I think its best it's not relitigated, but that almost always...

The risk calculation was wrong because the wrong risks were used, as I put below. No, it absolutely does fly. They all signed up for work, so they all take risks. The places they work aren't trying to be as safe as possible either: they are trying to be as safe as is feasible for the job they...

They both bear responsibility. First, both wrongly determined the risk worth the benefit. But the police asking for it is worse than the judge. The judges do, as part of their job, let shitty but constitutional things happen all the time. It's not their job to decide policy, it's the cops job as...

Well, glad they caught him. Still there was no need for a no knock to catch him. The officers specifically would only do it on a no-knock, and requested it. They bear guilt here. And no, it's not like a general anesthesia surgery. The patient in anesthesia (or a preestablished medical proxy)...

That's literally the job they agreed to do. Its a tough dangerous job. But part of that job is valuing the lives of the people they serve, such as Amir Locke, above their own. The State quite simply has no right to do no-knock raids. I quite simply don't care it makes it slightly safer for...

This whole video excuses jack shit. The guy even acknowledges that Amir Locke wasn't the one that police were there for. This is why people call you a bootlicker. Even when it's completely obvious the police have done wrong, you try to make excuses. The police should probably almost never have...

Eh, nothing wrong with basic pattern recognition. A lot of times the complaints are baseless. The thing is that some of the time they aren't. People are being fed one of two easy narratives: Cops are all racist/Cops are all good. Really, the truth is complicated: Cops are generally good people...

This time, they deserve to be. He was a legal firearm owner with a CCL, not named on the warrant, who was sleeping on a couch. The cops, after being asked by the St Paul department to do a knock and announce, instead did a no knock warrant. So basically a guy who's sleeping on a couch suddenly...

It was stolen from a black church. That's what I'm talking about.

Well, shit, he's lucky he got away with just a couple of months then. Given how broad the federal hate crimes law is, he could probably get hit for that too.

We just told all of you to stop insulting users or their integrity. Now threadbans happen. @Urabrask Revealed, @Rocinante, and @Megadeath have all been given 24 hour threadbans for not doing so. The punishments will escalate if we have to come here again.

This is one of those cases where even if a civilian shot her, it would have been legal. I've got zero problem with the action of the cop here. It's sad that she died, but she full well brought it on herself.