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... That's what it means though. And citing Trump is stupid here, he says stupid stuff all the time, mostly unintentionally. America is not a Christian nation anymore than it is an White Anglo-Saxon nation, despite America having many Christian values and White Anglo-Saxon values. For more...

Those are completely different to everyone who isn't in your world. Saying a country is a X-nation, where X is a religion or a ethnicity or nationality, means that it's for people who are X (and maybe not for people who aren't X), and that X has not just political influence, but laws to support...

There's a difference between saying "America's a Christian Nation" and America is based on Christian values and has a huge affect on America's values. One makes one a theocrat by definition (wanting to legislate by religion). The other is fact. I never said it was an exhaustive list, just that...

I don't think you get what I said. The right has repeatedly failed at being able to do that. You as a group are utterly incapable of consistently picking conservative judges. All you are able to do is pick textualists. You have no other option except flipping a coin. Second, that you think they...

Because a) there aren't many right wing activist judges, and b) the republican party tried that for years, and ended up with a Souter for every Alito, because they weren't able to choose ones that stayed conservative. The only reliable choice were originalists and textualists, who still almost...

Not really. Law shouldn't be about someone's morality. It should be about preserving rights against those who would abuse people. That you think this yet again proves how little you actually know about the constitution. The constitution is literally the only thing stopping us from going the...

First, what in hell does a jury system have to do with anything here? Second, that is not why we use the jury system. We use the jury system for a variety of reasons, but not because we think that judges in general are not trustworthy, but to adjust for bias, stop people from being in the...

If so, that violates even section 230, as they aren't keeping to the safe harbor rules. They'd then get sued into oblivion.

Huh. I wonder if it would even be legal for them to use the same algorithms? Because the algorithms machine learning uses operate on a shitton of data, so you'd need every company trying to write an algorithm to have gigs and gigs of child porn to run tests against to train.

The moral high ground is 100% about what this fight is all about. Leftists try to take it by calling others racist, we take it back by appealing to American values. And censorship has never been one. As for it being unconstitutional, you are banning a type of speech because it is viewed as bad...

Don't impose morality on others? I'm not in favor of it even if it were constitutional. And it's a very bad idea to be pro any kind of censorship when fighting against a block that uses censorship. Every win you get will be used against you, and all that effort will counteract the progress...

In the US, it's still unconstitutional. The obscenity exemption is a hole that will always be just too small to put anything through, and putting a type of tax on a type of speech is blatantly unconstitutional.

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I mean, it applies to everyone though. That's the point. If you get rid of free speech, you don't get to speak. At another point in time porn studios don't get to operate. The solution is free speech so all get to participate.

Yes, exactly. Free speech is explicitly about letting people not in power speak their mind, something anathema to a totalitarian like yourself, but a foundational value of America. And yes, I have enough evidence to show you as a totalitarian, from hating free speech to endorsing the economics...

As usual, you show no comprehension of free speech. Free speech must include political subversion, or it isn't free. Hitler also liked free speech that only applied to the Nazi Party. But thanks for providing yet more evidence that this porn exception is just a Trojan horse with which you plan...

And? I still see no reason it should be discussed outside of it being the motive. We don't consider banning drawing Mohammed when someone's head is cutoff for discussing it, why should we consider the possible harm of pornography now? It's despicable to give that evil man anything useful.