But they're partisan hacks, and AntiFa apologists, so it's ok./s
But they're partisan hacks, and AntiFa apologists, so it's ok./s
Row row fight the power? I think they just want something to fight and feel good about it.The one thing I don't get about Antifa is how exactly the logic of them claiming they fight fascists therefore anyone they attack is a fascist works. If I called myself an antiracist and started attacking people it wouldn't suddenly make everyone I attacked a racist even if I got lucky and attacked an actual racist from time to time. It wouldn't be so odd if it wasn't repeated so often by people defending them which includes news people.
Like I get why Antifa does it, they directly benefit from saying everyone they beat up is a fascist and thus get cover for it. It's other people using that argument that raises eyebrows because while I don't doubt that some of them don't mind having someone beat up their political rivals while claiming they're fascists, it doesn't explain why so many other people go along with it.Row row fight the power? I think they just want something to fight and feel good about it.
Like you know this guy is scum so don't feel too bad about doing anything to him including very illegal acts so treat him like a aggression dummy.
Not in my backyard? No understanding of what acceptance of that can do when it's against people they don't like?Like I get why Antifa does it, they directly benefit from saying everyone they beat up is a fascist and thus get cover for it. It's other people using that argument that raises eyebrows because while I don't doubt that some of them don't mind having someone beat up their political rivals while claiming they're fascists, it doesn't explain why so many other people go along with it.
Like I get why Antifa does it, they directly benefit from saying everyone they beat up is a fascist and thus get cover for it. It's other people using that argument that raises eyebrows because while I don't doubt that some of them don't mind having someone beat up their political rivals while claiming they're fascists, it doesn't explain why so many other people go along with it.
Define "so many other people", because from what I've seen the only people who repeat antifa's bullshit are either antifa sympathizers or the kind of hateful dipshit that does enjoy seeing people they dislike get beaten. And while people like that are certainly very loud and very visable online, I don't think they're actually all that numerous.
I can't really say about people irl because simply put I'm not an American nor living there so anyone I talk to is unlikely to know much about the subject if at all. As far as I've seen, it's been journalists who were sympathetic towards as well as others online. That there are that many at all and in relatively prominent positions like journalists at that is what's surprising to me.Define "so many other people", because from what I've seen the only people who repeat antifa's bullshit are either antifa sympathizers or the kind of hateful dipshit that does enjoy seeing people they dislike get beaten. And while people like that are certainly very loud and very visable online, I don't think they're actually all that numerous.
well, for now anyway. Not that it's for lack of trying. Plenty of "assaulting random people in the street" and "firebombing the wrong government agency"Personally i'm just of the opinion that Antifa (not like its an organisation but whatever) have distinctly less deaths attributable to them (Are there any?). Which makes them prefferable to assholes like that Unite the Right movement where someone drove a car into a crowd.
Personally i'm just of the opinion that Antifa (not like its an organisation but whatever) have distinctly less deaths attributable to them (Are there any?). Which makes them prefferable to assholes like that Unite the Right movement where someone drove a car into a crowd.
I can't really say about people irl because simply put I'm not an American nor living there so anyone I talk to is unlikely to know much about the subject if at all. As far as I've seen, it's been journalists who were sympathetic towards as well as others online. That there are that many at all and in relatively prominent positions like journalists at that is what's surprising to me.
I'm serious does it even have a leadership?And no, antifa is an organization. Do not try that "it's a tactic, not a group, everyone who is against facists is antifa" shit, it's nothing more than a transparent attempt to draw a moral equivalence between believing facists are wrong and getting into street fights.
I'm serious does it even have a leadership?
Are there even any recognisable figures directly associated with it rather than vague support?
it has branded cells with icons and shit.I'm serious does it even have a leadership?
it has branded cells with icons and shit.
Wasn't there a recent one about someone brainwashed with anti ICE rhetoric they decided to Molotov cocktail an immigration office except they were bad at it?well, for now anyway. Not that it's for lack of trying. Plenty of "assaulting random people in the street" and "firebombing the wrong government agency"
the funniest part of that comedy of errors was that it wasn't even ICE, that office had nothing to do with illegal immigration.they decided to Molotov cocktail an immigration office except they were bad at it?
Congratulations you have grasped basic human social organisation.
I'm asking if it has a leadership. Hell even a central organising figure like Spencer. You can call Antifa a tactic, a phenomenon or a movement, those are all accurate insofar as none require an organised leadership. They are not however an organisation because what the people in Chicago calling themselves Antifa believe and say compared to a group in Houston or New York could be entirely different things and no pull whatsoever with each other.
it has branded cells with icons and shit.
Congratulations you have grasped basic human social organisation.
I'm asking if it has a leadership. Hell even a central organising figure like Spencer. You can call Antifa a tactic, a phenomenon or a movement, those are all accurate insofar as none require an organised leadership. They are not however an organisation because what the people in Chicago calling themselves Antifa believe and say compared to a group in Houston or New York could be entirely different things and no pull whatsoever with each other.
Them not killing people is much more a sign of their immense power that they don't need to, rather than a moral superiority.