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Cherico said:

Bolsanaro could be the greatest mind in his generation, he could be the most competent leader in Brazilian history and it wouldn't be enough to fix brazils long term economic problems because their is a fucking mountain rage between its productive regions and the international market.

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Actually, there is a way of circumventing this: you build infrastructure. One of the things the current Administration is doing is heavily investing in infrastructure, including projects with Peru to cross the Andes, as well as improving links to ports closer to the center of Brazil(like ports in the Amazon River).

Cherico said:

Bolsanaro could be the greatest mind in his generation, he could be the most competent leader in Brazilian history and it wouldn't be enough to fix brazils long term economic problems because their is a fucking mountain rage between its productive regions and the international market.

That is the problem that fucks up the Brazilian economy.

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I'm imagining an alternative timeline where someone is explaining that why Brazil is so much more economically developed than North America is that the latter region has a mountain range (the Appalachians) between the east coast and the inland regions, while Brazil has a huge navigable river (the Amazon) that allows shipping to travel deep inland.

Scottty said:

I'm imagining an alternative timeline where someone is explaining that why Brazil is so much more economically developed than North America is that the latter region has a mountain range (the Appalachians) between the east coast and the inland regions, while Brazil has a huge navigable river (the Amazon) that allows shipping to travel deep inland.

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The problem is, the Mississippi is on the other side of the Appalachians allowing easy travel through the Midwest, whereas going through the Amazon means dealing with jungle, which means all sorts of fun illnesses
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Floridaman said:

The problem is, the Mississippi is on the other side of the Appalachians allowing easy travel through the Midwest, whereas going through the Amazon means dealing with jungle, which means all sorts of fun illnesses.

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BUILD A CANAL!!!!

Sorry, over on AH there was an obsession with building a canal in the Neck for the North’s prosperity in ASOIAF

CarlManvers2019 said:

BUILD A CANAL!!!!

Sorry, over on AH there was an obsession with building a canal in the Neck for the North’s prosperity in ASOIAF

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A better solution would be to destroy the part of the rain forest near the river, the problem is you would get similar attrition to what we got building the Panama Canal, for a longer distance, and without the wealth the US already had.

Floridaman said:

A better solution would be to destroy the part of the rain forest near the river, the problem is you would get similar attrition to what we got building the Panama Canal, for a longer distance, and without the wealth the US already had.

The Panama Canal’s forgotten casualties

The Panama Canal was a tremendous achievement by the U.S. and a display of their power and abilities. However, the health costs to the mostly Caribbean contract workers was enormous.

theconversation.com

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Destroying rainforest? That’d get many environmentalists pissed

Floridaman said:

The problem is, the Mississippi is on the other side of the Appalachians allowing easy travel through the Midwest, whereas going through the Amazon means dealing with jungle, which means all sorts of fun illnesses.

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Do we need to beak out the Saruman memes?

Floridaman said:

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Now I want to see how much of that very impressive river complex is navigable. It looks like one could almost go to Yellowstone Park by boat.

As I understand it, provincial elite have retained a greater deal of autonomy than they did in the United States. This meant the Federal Brazilian government often couldn't get the policies it wanted without having to either run roughshod over very powerful local notables, or work with them and not get what it wanted.

Scottty said:

Do we need to beak out the Saruman memes?



Now I want to see how much of that very impressive river complex is navigable. It looks like one could almost go to Yellowstone Park by boat.

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people have,

Lord Invictus said:

As I understand it, provincial elite have retained a greater deal of autonomy than they did in the United States. This meant the Federal Brazilian government often couldn't get the policies it wanted without having to either run roughshod over very powerful local notables, or work with them and not get what it wanted.

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That was true in the 1889-1930 period. As for geography, the Amazon River and its basin didn't lead to the more important places in Brazil for a long time, while the Paraná River and most of its basin(the exception is the Paraguay River, main access to the Mato Grosso area until 1910 and one of the reasons why Brazil had to stomp Paraguay as it did) aren't suited for navigation. So, in a sense, Cherico is right, geography has hindered Brazil.

Where I think he's wrong is in thinking that it can't be circumvented; for example, we're finally completing a railroad that goes from São Luís in Maranhão State(close to the Amazon River estuary) to Paranaguá in Paraná State(close to the border with São Paulo State), which will shorten considerably the time needed to bring grains from Mato Grosso, Mato Grosso do Sul and Goiás States to export harbors(of which Paranaguá is one of the important ones). Also, there's been some work to link the agricultural areas of the Center-West region with ports on the Amazon River, and even some work on rail and highway links with Peruvian ports. So, the geography can be circumvented. Will it cost money to do it? Of course. But, like the Panamá Canal, the investments will, in the end, pay off by the increased volume of commerce.