Crossover Horus gets resurrected in Halo-verse.

So pre-Chaos corruption Horus gets resurrected with his memories up until his death by Emperor. He gets resurrected in Halo-verse a few years before the start of human-covenant war. ROB says that in order to atone for his misdeeds, he has to save these humans from the upcoming Covenant threat and lead them to victory over the Covenant forces that shall arrive in a few years. Horus is also given his legion of space marines. Horus realizing his big fuck up and feeling his guilt and regrets over betraying the Emperor accepts the task.

Can the Warmaster lead UNSC to a glorious victory over the xenofilth Covenant?

He doesn’t stop at just saving the UNSC, he becomes humanity’s new Emperor

With access to Forerunner Technology, though HE may not be considered a “Reclaimer”, a new Golden Age may occur

The question, for me, is does Horus have access to the expeditionary fleet?

The UNSC’s main issue was that they almost never had command of the combat zones airspace. They did fine on the ground, but it’s a little hard to hold out against full orbital annihilation.

The Covenant fleet could cut through theirs like a hot knife through butter, and I can’t see the UNSC being able to build up a fleet large enough to change that within a few years. Even with full industrial capacity dedicated to it.

I’m not sure how covenant ships stack up against Imperium vessels though. But I’d imagine a full expeditionary fleet would be a significant obstacle and it should be able to at least contest orbital control.

Without that fleet, even if the UNSC is able to buff its ship numbers significantly more than canon, I can’t see them doing more than making the fight more obnoxious.

The ground fighting becomes more of a blood bath in the initial stages, but standard Covenant procedure was orbital bombardment, and i’d Imagine even Astartes would have trouble surviving a planetary glassing.

StormEagle said:

The question, for me, is does Horus have access to the expeditionary fleet?

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Assume a single enforced battlefleet with 16 battleships, 40 cruiser squadrons and a 100 escort squadrons.

And then all assorted goodies like fighters, bombers, troop transports, assault ships, etc...

If Horus has his fleet, even just his Great Crusade Expedition fleet, the Covenant are getting rekted. The only issue is forcing actual combat as Horus would only have so many ships and VERY limited ability to repair them. Even then Horus just needs to buy the UNSC/UEG time to study Covenant and Forerunner tech.

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With 16 battleships, 40 cruisers and 100 escort squadrons, Horus should be fine. Give the UNSC a few ships to study and all he has to do is act as Humanity's fast reaction fleet. If Horus has the tech to recruit local humans into space marines, then even if the New Marines are limited to local human tech they are still Spartans on steroids.

High Lord Rokland said:

cruisers

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cruiser squadrons

Tyzuris Coronati said:

cruiser squadrons

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Then the UNSC is fine. Imperium ships are really fast compared to UNSC or Covenant ships. Though Covenant ships can do way more targeted jumps.

Does anyone know is Void Shields can deal with Covenant plasma weapons? The Halo galaxies warp should be way safe for Horus's fleet to, so faster travel is possible.

When does Horus arrive and where? How would the UEG react? How does the Covenant view all this?

I don't think Horus getting a fleet would be in any way, shape or form fair to the Covenant. 40K macro cannons put UNSC to shame and they're the primary armament for 40K ships. Which often fight traveling at .75c.

A more fair setting would be to have perhaps one or two ships at the most, if even that. As a Primarch, they've all got some level of instinctual ability to understand technology (some more keenly than others like Ferrus Manus) but I could easily see him understanding and upgrading their tech base. Hell, I'd be surprised if he wouldn't have them producing Imperial tech within months and revolutionizing the entire tech base within years.

Yeah it'd be more Primarchy if he just ended up in some random Human world and built up his influence there to be honest. Might not make for good Versus'ing but it'd be a far stronger narrative to nerd out to.

Tyzuris said:

cruiser squadrons

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How big is a squadron of cruisers? Is it the same number of ships as in an escort squadron?

Also I love bumping random old-ass threads from the depths of Versus and What-Ifs.

Horus would need to have a few ships with a fair number of boarding torpedoes and assault transports. Then he just sends his Marines over to take over/destroy Covenant vessels.

High Lord Rokland said:

Does anyone know is Void Shields can deal with Covenant plasma weapons? The Halo galaxies warp should be way safe for Horus's fleet to, so faster travel is possible.

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Yes, Void Shields would handle the plasma weapons fairly easily.

Tyzuris said:

So pre-Chaos corruption Horus gets resurrected with his memories up until his death by Emperor. He gets resurrected in Halo-verse a few years before the start of human-covenant war. ROB says that in order to atone for his misdeeds, he has to save these humans from the upcoming Covenant threat and lead them to victory over the Covenant forces that shall arrive in a few years. Horus is also given his legion of space marines. Horus realizing his big fuck up and feeling his guilt and regrets over betraying the Emperor accepts the task.

Can the Warmaster lead UNSC to a glorious victory over the xenofilth Covenant?

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There is something like that,dead fic "Arrival of the Astartes",although with Magnus and saving another Earth from another aliens.

Husky_Khan said:

How big is a squadron of cruisers? Is it the same number of ships as in an escort squadron?

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2-4 cruisers as opposed to 2-6 in escort squadrons.

And apparently according to the first rulebook of the Horus Heresy TT series and one quote from Horus in a novel, by the battle of Ullanor the Luna Wolves had 150 capital ships of battleship and cruiser class + thrice that in escorts and smaller cruisers.

So assume a fleet of 600 warships + whatever logistical ships they employ + needed support base for maintaining the fleet size.