Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

[Zachowon]

I feel like saints are blasphemous, and that perhaps the Islamic world within Iran hates ALL Christians not just one section or another

 

[King Arts]

I feel like saints are blasphemous, and that perhaps the Islamic world within Iran hates ALL Christians not just one section or another

How are you saying saints are blasphemy? Also aren’t you a pagan? Why are you “defending the honor” of Protestants?

 

[Poe]

What are you talking about? No jehovas witnesses are not considered Christian by Orthodox by Catholics, by Lutheran, by reformed; by baptists.

I'm talking about the literal definition of Christian which is a Follower of Christ. Obviously Catholics would not agree but they are biased here and don't get to determine who is and isn't.

People don’t differentiate between Pauline Christianity and non Paul. The non Paul non trinitarians are not Christian.

Actually yes they do, I didn't invent the term Pauline christianity Pauline Christianity - Wikipedia

You can’t just use the definition of “a follower of Christ” because that leads to crazy stuff like Mormons. If we call Mormons Christians why not Muslims?

Yes I can, since that is the literal definition from a time before there was even a truly organized movement. That is what christian means in its first uses.

Hey I guess Iran is a Christian theocracy now since Muslims follow Jesus.

Cringe bad faith take, Muslims specifically do not follow Jesus but consider him one of many prophets

Actually no God put authorities over man one of those is the church. Another one is the government a Christian in America must obey the US government as long as the government is not ordering you to do a sin.

Nope this is Pauline Christianity

 

[Zachowon]

How are you saying saints are blasphemy? Also aren’t you a pagan? Why are you “defending the honor” of Protestants?

Because one can speak foe a religion they once followed. And being pagan doesn't mean I can't defend any religion from another.

Because saints seem to be seen in high regard and, while not the holy trinity, held to a standard above every man. Iconography of those not the lord.

I'm talking about the literal definition of Christian which is a Follower of Christ. Obviously Catholics would not agree but they are biased here and don't get to determine who is and isn't.

Actually yes they do, I didn't invent the term Pauline christianity Pauline Christianity - Wikipedia

Yes I can, since that is the literal definition from a time before there was even a truly organized movement. That is what christian means in its first uses.

Cringe bad faith take, Muslims specifically do not follow Jesus but consider him one of many prophets

Nope this is Pauline Christianity

See, this is what I like.

 

[Marduk]

So if Protestants have shared characteristics and you group them together.

Why are you not grouping orthodox together when they have even more shared characteristics?

Either option you use, there ends up being more Protestants anyway, or just more Anglicans specifically.

 

[Bacle]

And here we see a perfect reason why the Middile East will never have peace, even under complete Christian rule from Kyber Pass to the Bosphorus and Suez: Christian inter/intra-denominational conflicts will just be the new/old reason people will keep fighting.

 

[Husky_Khan]

And here we see a perfect reason why the Middile East will never have peace, even under complete Christian rule from Kyber Pass to the Bosphorus and Suez: Christian inter/intra-denominational conflicts will just be the new/old reason people will keep fighting.

Christian denominations rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Poe]

And here we see a perfect reason why the Middile East will never have peace, even under complete Christian rule from Kyber Pass to the Bosphorus and Suez: Christian inter/intra-denominational conflicts will just be the new/old reason people will keep fighting.

Yep, just like how Europe will never manage to find peace due to the schismatic nature of Christianity.

 

[LordsFire]

Yep, just like how Europe will never manage to find peace due to the schismatic nature of Christianity.

No, that would be 'human nature,' not 'the schismatic nature of Christianity.'

 

[Poe]

No, that would be 'human nature,' not 'the schismatic nature of Christianity.'

I was being facetious, Europe has definitely gotten past fighting over religion with one another.

 

[Bacle]

I was being facetious, Europe has definitely gotten past fighting over religion with one another.

The Balkans are Europe, and I seem to remember so serious ethnic tension there with relation to religion and sectarian violence.

Oh, and the Irish Catholic vs Protestant issues are still around, as evidenced by Northern Ireland's continued existence.

 

[Poe]

The Balkans are Europe, and I seem to remember so serious ethnic tension there with relation to religion and sectarian violence.

Oh, and the Irish Catholic vs Protestant issues are still around, as evidenced by Northern Ireland's continued existence.

If these were the only problems the middle east had it would be a huge step up

 

[Marduk]

Houthis deploy new weapons to secure first direct hit in Indian Ocean

<p>UPDATE: Analysis of a video circulated by Houthi following the attack suggest that a Shehab drone may have been used against MSC Orion, suggesting that significantly more accurate weapons with a range of up to 1,600 km are now being used to target ships</p>

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[Bacle]

Guess the Ayatollah decided to make it official. Guess we'll see what happens now that it's no longer even 'pretend Iran doesn't have functional capacity' option is no longer being humored by the leadership.

The fucking Iran Nuke Deal was such a dumb decision.

 

[IndyFront]

Guess the Ayatollah decided to make it official. Guess we'll see what happens now that it's no longer even 'pretend Iran doesn't have functional capacity' option is no longer being humored by the leadership.

The fucking Iran Nuke Deal was such a dumb decision.

Damn beat me to it Yeah I've been saying for awhile now it would be a lot smarter for the intelligence community and state dept to just assume Iran already fucking HAS nukes and go from there

 

[Cherico]

Guess the Ayatollah decided to make it official. Guess we'll see what happens now that it's no longer even 'pretend Iran doesn't have functional capacity' option is no longer being humored by the leadership.

The fucking Iran Nuke Deal was such a dumb decision.

This is another L for Biden on a long list of Ls.

 

[gral]

I remember an International Relations guy saying that, when Trump scrapped the Obama deal, Iran was fated to get nuclear weapons(implying it was due to Trump making Iran feel threatened). I wonder what he thinks of it right now... lie, I know what he thinks of it. He still thinks it was Trump's fault.

 

[Marduk]

I remember an International Relations guy saying that, when Trump scrapped the Obama deal, Iran was fated to get nuclear weapons(implying it was due to Trump making Iran feel threatened). I wonder what he thinks of it right now... lie, I know what he thinks of it. He still thinks it was Trump's fault.

By the fact that Iran was left with its nuclear infrastructure not bombed, Iran was fated to get nuclear weapons eventually because it wanted them and it would not be stopped. The "deal" just meant they would have to be a bit more quieter about it (and only a bit as there wasn't a strict inspection regime included), which is why it was terminated, as that obviously sounds like a shitty deal.

Iran was bound to "feel threatened" and want nukes because it has bold plans for empire building actions in ME, and pursuing those inherently would give reasons for other countries to threaten it.

OTOH just because they say so doesn't mean they have any meaningful operational nuclear capability...

 

[Zachowon]

I say we make sure they can't use it.

 

[ATP]

So by your logic most Christians also are wrong about it, and in turn your fringe opinion on this is irrelevant.

Since when they are christians ? you need to follow bishops who follow Apostols lineage to be one,others are just dudes who created their own sects to become important.

So why does North Korea get so pissed off about propaganda? Could just let people have western movies without death penalty for it if that is not a threat to the regime.

They have death penalty for being christian,tor protestant.And they certainly are not danger.

Yet wanted to be their useful idiots regardless, that says something.

Just like said - socialists.They always end in mass graves after succesfull commie revolutions,in which they helped.

Because some savages are more savage than others.

Yet we should fight those more dangerous.Which mean turks.If nothing change,in 2040 we would have Berlin sultanate.

Yet that's how it works in law, you don't get to interpret the law for the supreme court, but the opposite holds true.

This is not court,but RL.Where everybody could say that white is white.

Not anymore, and Iran's Shia theocrats don't get to play pope on who is real Christian, only a clown would allow that.

They do not choose who is real christian,they kill those who convert muslims.Like any other muslim country.
If you do not belive,go to Saudi Arabia,convert some muslim,and look what would happen to him.

No with that economy they could not.

They have better economy ten most european states.

What good is property that is disobedient.

Are they? becouse it seems,that their actions serve China well.

No i didn't, and you never could explain what are the cultural differences between Arabs and Palestinians even though i asked many times. If they aren't different from Arabs, how can they be a separate people, they are just Arabs.

They have the same or similar language - but so have ukrainians and belarussians and soviets.Yet ukrainian and belarussian are nations,becouse they belive so.
The same goes for palestinians.If they are arabs,why Egypt do not let them come? they are one arab nation according to you,right?

Neither. Israel has a lot of immigrants from Russia who are soveks.

And they built monuments for soviet genociders.Current ambassador in Poland was born in Moscov,and his father betrayed Poland in 1939 and served soviets.

In your delusional dreams.

My dreams built monuments in Izrael? or,they are part of Izrael goverment?

Where is the Ba'ath party in Iraq? At least that's gone.
Iraq is not Afghanistan, and Iran is not Iraq, those are individual places, and yet again, i don't have your crystal ball, only my educated guesses, which i think are better.
Iran has Shia jihadis in charge now, if those are scattered to the four winds, they won't join Sunni one because they aren't sunnis, so there's a good chance for some sort of secular government.

Yes,secular party in Iraq is gone,and replaced by islamist.Great replacment,as great as Izrael did when they replaced Fatah with Hamas in Gaza.
You do not have educated quess,only belive that "THIS TIME IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT"
Tell me,how many christians must die before you finally see reality?
and,if your masters manage to destroy Iran,would you go there to die defending local christians who love safely now?

You are either genuine useful idiot,or dude who want to murder christians with cold blood.Dunno,what is worst.

P.S i would answer your rambling after few weeks,becouse you are boring.If fate of christians in Iran do not depended on it,i would stopped answering long ago.

P.P.S Dear deep state,i knew,that you are watching.Remember - you could destroy Iran and kill christians there and in Armenia,but this time americans could awake and kill you.Think about that.
I knew,that you do not care about murdered christian children,but you should think about your safety.