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What Covid decrees allowed to police in Newark to do, in terms of violating their citizens civil rights and freedoms, shows why we can never allow lockdowns or anything like them to be utilized ever again in this nation.
 

Vaermina

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What Covid decrees allowed to police in Newark to do, in terms of violating their citizens civil rights and freedoms, shows why we can never allow lockdowns or anything like them to be utilized ever again in this nation.

Keep in mind, most of those probably didn't hold up in court.
 

Cherico

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I saw nothing saying the majority of these were dropped in court.

Do you have evidence that they were?

Or are you just trying to minimize how much Covid allowed police to ignore our basic Constitutional right's and freedoms?

The police walked out of this crisis having managed to sucessfully piss off both parties and with a whole lot less legitimacy. This is a group thats going to end up with no political allies and they will have done it to themselves.
 

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The police walked out of this crisis having managed to sucessfully piss off both parties and with a whole lot less legitimacy. This is a group thats going to end up with no political allies and they will have done it to themselves.
Yep.

I used to support police, because they often get unfair reps and get shit on by everybody for doing their jobs while wanting to go home at night.

Now I realize many, many cops are cops for the power trip it allows them to fulfill, and very few of them actually care about the Constitution more than their own paychecks or pensions.
 

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Yep.

I used to support police, because they often get unfair reps and get shit on by everybody for doing their jobs while wanting to go home at night.

Now I realize many, many cops are cops for the power trip it allows them to fulfill, and very few of them actually care about the Constitution more than their own paychecks or pensions.
Thing is, the good cops have either left in disgust at what's happened (such as the resignations en masse), other cops have become nothing more than thugs and cronies for the Democrats (like a lot of the higher ups in the justice system), some other cops are just unaffiliated thugs on a power-trip, and the rest are good cops just biding their time until they're shit-canned one way or another (or they join the first lot in just resigning).

Hell, at this point I think the Texas Rangers are the only group not filled with political fuckery, and that's because they just don't give a shit about that sort-of thing.
 

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Thing is, the good cops have either left in disgust at what's happened (such as the resignations en masse), other cops have become nothing more than thugs and cronies for the Democrats (like a lot of the higher ups in the justice system), some other cops are just unaffiliated thugs on a power-trip, and the rest are good cops just biding their time until they're shit-canned one way or another (or they join the first lot in just resigning).

Hell, at this point I think the Texas Rangers are the only group not filled with political fuckery, and that's because they just don't give a shit about that sort-of thing.
True; the Texas Ranger's are one of the few LEO groups that hasn't started using 'woke policing' BS or bowed to partisan political pressure.

I used to also put the Coast Guard in that same bracket, but the shit the new CG head has said/done has now stuck Coasties in the 'woke' catagory as well.
 

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Keep in mind, most of those probably didn't hold up in court.

The phrase "You may beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride" exists for a reason. Just because you can beat the charges or even have them dropped, that doesn't mean you're therefor OK. Getting arrested is still a massive inconvenience at best. It costs you time, money, probably a fair bit of pain, and while it doesn't screw up your life the way a conviction can, you still don't want an arrest on your record.
 

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So Twitter has this in the 'Trending' bar right now.

"The ingredients of COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any magnetic materials, according to scientists and medical professionals."

I'm kinda curious as to why Twitter thought this needed to Trend, without any hashtags or articles attached, and without the option to dismiss it from the Trends on your timeline.

I would never have wondered about anything like this going on with the vaccines, and not sure why it would matter, but it's a curious decision to put that in the Trending sidebar.
 

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Get the jab citizen or stay masked.

This is the line they should have been using from the beginning. Shapiro has been shouting about this for months. So has Crowder. So has Trevor fucking Noah.

If they wanted to encourage vaccination, then from the day the vaccine started rolling out, everyone in government should have been saying "no more masks once you vaccinate! You're safe! Life will go back to normal for you!'

Instead they're like "nope, maybe even wear two masks."

People hate the masks. But if you're telling them they still need to wear them after being vaccinated, you're spreading the message that the vaccines don't work. Their strategy for the last five months has been staggeringly counter productive. It takes this administration FIVE MONTHS to come up with proper messaging. They're just that inept.

They work. These vaccines are working even better than early trials showed. Both moderns and Pfizer are showing 95%+ rates at stopping this virus. And they've been working on mutated strains as well. It's a miraculous breakthrough, and our government is just plain incompetent when it comes to proper messaging.

I don't plan on getting it myself, but the only reason I think Biden is dumb as fuck on this, is because it's 5 months too fucking late.

Now it's worth noting, in my ideal world this wouldn't apply because there would have never been restrictions in the first place. However in the real world, there are, and a good way to encourage vaccination would have been to say life goes back to normal once you get it.

That said, from the perspective of someone who wants a free America, I think the proper solution right now is to end all restrictions for everyone nationwide. But from a purely strategic standpoint this was the right move.....5 months ago.
 

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There are things that are harmless to humans that can kill animals you know
Except that's not what it sounded like happened, based on that vid.

It very much sounds like they skipped/aborted steps for PR/rush production reasons. It sounds like no one has ever done this with a vaccine before, and it is alarming.

Everyone wants back to normal so much they are willing to trust these vaccines when frankly, Trump endorsement or not, they seem to have a lot more 'bugs/side-effects' than the normal flu vaccine or the TDAP cocktail.

The more they push and act like any worry about the vaccines are unreasonable, the more they seem like they are trying to hide something and just want to push the shot on everyone for narrative reasons, not health reasons.

People at low risk from the Wu Flu don't need the vaccine, and the high risk people are either already vaccinated, or dead.
 

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Except that's not what it sounded like happened, based on that vid.

It very much sounds like they skipped/aborted steps for PR/rush production reasons. It sounds like no one has ever done this with a vaccine before, and it is alarming.

Everyone wants back to normal so much they are willing to trust these vaccines when frankly, Trump endorsement or not, they seem to have a lot more 'bugs/side-effects' than the normal flu vaccine or the TDAP cocktail.

The more they push and act like any worry about the vaccines are unreasonable, the more they seem like they are trying to hide something and just want to push the shot on everyone for narrative reasons, not health reasons.

People at low risk from the Wu Flu don't need the vaccine, and the high risk people are either already vaccinated, or dead.
All I am saying is there could be many reasons
 

Vaermina

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The lack of mass death of the vaccinated seems to indicate that this isn't happening in humans.
And we have a winner.

And before anyone tries to argue, no vaccine ever has had side effects pop up more then a month or two after administration. It's just not how they work.
 

Captain X

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Still rather concerning. Not going to lie, I'm just a bit concerned about some of the reproductive side-effects that had been talked about at the very least. It would be nice to still be capable of giving my parents some grandkids at some point in the future, provided there is a future for this country to bring them into.
 

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