China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Rocinante]

>them
There are many lobbies in the establishment, trust me, some certainly are still against it.
Does it *have* to be a virtuous act, rather than purely pragmatic one?

So, the problem is in no way with the people who wanted it out, and have finally gotten their way.
The problem is that the people who held them back for so long don't seem to be suffering crippling professional consequences at least, and criminal trials preferably, where their motivations and connections to China would be examined closely.
And those people most certainly aren't "the warmongers".


How is coming around to the truth not counting if you suspect it's not for the motives you would prefer for them to come around to the truth for? It either is the truth or it isn't.

It's more, they don't deserve any credit for coming to the truth because it was for shady reasons. They do not get forgiveness from me.

They're still the same corrupt establishment that tried to silence me.all, and would have been happy to see me as a second class citizen

 

[Marduk]

It's more, they don't deserve any credit for coming to the truth because it was for shady reasons. They do not get forgiveness from me.

Do you even know the specific lobbies involved, motivations, who pushed for what, and if it's even the same people who made the decision to bullshit around it that have also made the decision to change the official line now?

 

[Rocinante]

Do you even know the specific lobbies involved, motivations, who pushed for what, and if it's even the same people who made the decision to bullshit around it that have also made the decision to change the official line now?

It's the US Federal government, and their media/social media lackies. The WHO, CDC, and apparently Dept. Of Energy.

Don't care about specifics. The federal government is corrupt, all of it.

 

[Marduk]

It's the US Federal government, and their media/social media lackies. The WHO, CDC, and apparently Dept. Of Energy.

Don't care about specifics. The federal government is corrupt, all of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/25/timeline-how-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-suddenly-became-credible/

Well Tom Cotton is one rather pro-establishment GOP congresscritter who was not discounting the lab theory from the beginning and got kinda famous for it, and there are more.

From what i gather it seems like it was the media, academic, social and otherwise, who whored out to unknown parties (for more likely than not shady reasons), sweeping some idiots along the way.
It's much more mixed in other parts of the government, so, it's just not fair to blame them for their peer's bullshit with such blanket statements.

 

[Rocinante]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/25/timeline-how-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-suddenly-became-credible/

Well Tom Cotton is one rather pro-establishment GOP congresscritter who was not discounting the lab theory from the beginning and got kinda famous for it, and there are more.

From what i gather it seems like it was the media, academic, social and otherwise, who whored out to unknown parties (for more likely than not shady reasons), sweeping some idiots along the way.
It's much more mixed in other parts of the government, so, it's just not fair to blame them for their peer's bullshit with such blanket statements.

People like Rand Paul were outspoken, too.

If they were willing to actually have the balls to stand up, I'm happy to consider them exceptions.

Those people are a minority, though. The vast majority of our government are corrupt liars.

 

[Scottty]

It's the US Federal government, and their media/social media lackies. The WHO, CDC, and apparently Dept. Of Energy.

Don't care about specifics. The federal government is corrupt, all of it.

No doubt it is, but one thing it is obviously not, is a hivemind.
It's got lots of competing factions. And they could have various possible motives for seeking to blame things on each other.
Or giving their rivals enough rope to hang themselves.

 

[DarthOne]

No doubt it is, but one thing it is obviously not, is a hivemind.
It's got lots of competing factions. And they could have various possible motives for seeking to blame things on each other.
Or giving their rivals enough rope to hang themselves.

Enough of them work for the same people-or work for different people who have minor variations of the same end-goal (with said variation often boiling down to ‘I’m in charge’) that I hold little trust.

 

[Captain X]

 

[Rocinante]

"It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening you conspiracy theorist bigot!.......okay it's happening and this is why it's a good thing"


Typical

 

[Bear Ribs]

Note: This isn't a single tweet, it's a pretty lengthy thread covering what's going on and worth the read. I can't post it all here as it will run into the board's media limits well before showing the entire story.

 

[Rocinante]

Note: This isn't a single tweet, it's a pretty lengthy thread covering what's going on and worth the read. I can't post it all here as it will run into the board's media limits well before showing the entire story.

She's a hero.

I went deep into the IVE rabbit hole. Read lots of research, and peer reviewed studied, and looked at meta studies. It works. A million+ people who didn't need to die, did, because of worldwide governments and health industries.

 

[Captain X]

Note: This isn't a single tweet, it's a pretty lengthy thread covering what's going on and worth the read. I can't post it all here as it will run into the board's media limits well before showing the entire story.

Can the governor or legislature do anything for her? At the very least she is in Texas. Maybe something can be done to that board or those hospitals by the more friendly elements of the government on her behalf.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Can the governor or legislature do anything for her? At the very least she is in Texas. Maybe something can be done to that board or those hospitals by the more friendly elements of the government on her behalf.

Possibly but their options are extremely limited. This isn't being fought in actual courts but by the board concerning things like having a medical license and being allowed in hospitals, and those are fairly autonomous. They could change regulations but any such change would be ex post facto and not affect her directly, only future cases. The laws that do exist favor the hospitals, f'rex Bowden will not be allowed to face her accusers, the hospital staff have the right to stay anonymous while making accusations. The hospitals involved themselves also have tremendous resources and political clout they can bring to bear.

Found one older case that highlights the levels of insanity involved here.

Texas sheriff deputy who sued for Ivermectin secretly got the medication and came home (Exclusive)

Jason Jones hospitalized with COVID and wife fought for right to try

www.emilypostnews.com

One complaint regards Tarrant County Deputy Sheriff Jason Jones, who was hospitalized for COVID-19 in September 2021. After the Texas Health Huguely Hospital ventilated Jones and placed him in a medically induced coma, his wife Erin requested he be treated with Ivermectin, but the hospital denied her request. She then sued and obtained a court order to administer Ivermectin as prescribed by Bowden, but the hospital called the police to block a nurse brought by Erin from giving Jones the medication.

 

[Rocinante]

Possibly but their options are extremely limited. This isn't being fought in actual courts but by the board concerning things like having a medical license and being allowed in hospitals, and those are fairly autonomous. They could change regulations but any such change would be ex post facto and not affect her directly, only future cases. The laws that do exist favor the hospitals, f'rex Bowden will not be allowed to face her accusers, the hospital staff have the right to stay anonymous while making accusations. The hospitals involved themselves also have tremendous resources and political clout they can bring to bear.

Found one older case that highlights the levels of insanity involved here.

Texas sheriff deputy who sued for Ivermectin secretly got the medication and came home (Exclusive)

Jason Jones hospitalized with COVID and wife fought for right to try

www.emilypostnews.com

One complaint regards Tarrant County Deputy Sheriff Jason Jones, who was hospitalized for COVID-19 in September 2021. After the Texas Health Huguely Hospital ventilated Jones and placed him in a medically induced coma, his wife Erin requested he be treated with Ivermectin, but the hospital denied her request. She then sued and obtained a court order to administer Ivermectin as prescribed by Bowden, but the hospital called the police to block a nurse brought by Erin from giving Jones the medication.

Finish this story. His family then snuck him the meds. He recovered, and is healthy today.

This hospital tried to kill him and failed, because his family snuck drugs in past them.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Finish this story. His family then snuck him the meds. He recovered, and is healthy today.

This hospital tried to kill him and failed, because his family snuck drugs in past them.

Yeah, I don't generally finish the story if I'm linking to it because some people need those clicks for their ad revenue, so leaving off the ending encourages people to support them.

 

[Iconoclast]

It wasn't a lab leak. It was intentional.

 

[Bigking321]

I mean... yeah?

The globalists were getting pushback. Trump was sailing into a easy second term. Populists were winning around the world. The global deep state and super corporations were threatened!

Better to go all in and create a disaster as a excuse to rig elections and use the panic to seize huge amounts of money and power.

Edit: Sorry I don't mean to sound flippant or dismissive about it.

It's just at this point I absolutely believe these people are evil enough to do it on purpose. Like... no doubt about it at all.

 

[Cherico]

I mean... yeah?

The globalists were getting pushback. Trump was sailing into a easy second term. Populists were winning around the world. The global deep state and super corporations were threatened!

Better to go all in and create a disaster as a excuse to rig elections and use the panic to seize huge amounts of money and power.

Edit: Sorry I don't mean to sound flippant or dismissive about it.

It's just at this point I absolutely believe these people are evil enough to do it on purpose. Like... no doubt about it at all.

The funny thing is?

Its the over reaction to populism that ensures its victory. If they had accepted a loss there would have been some minor reforms and that would have been that. But going all in on this bullshit and it will be repeatedly doing this is what will ensure their fall.

 

[DarthOne]

The funny thing is?

Its the over reaction to populism that ensures its victory. If they had accepted a loss there would have been some minor reforms and that would have been that. But going all in on this bullshit and it will be repeatedly doing this is what will ensure their fall.

I hope so. We haven’t won yet so let’s not count our chickens before they hatch…or before the WEF kills them.

 

[Scottty]

The funny thing is?

Its the over reaction to populism that ensures its victory. If they had accepted a loss there would have been some minor reforms and that would have been that. But going all in on this bullshit and it will be repeatedly doing this is what will ensure their fall.

Something worth mentioning... what is a Populist? What is "Populism"?

Is it not simply a government that enacts policies for the benefit of the people of the country, for the population, in accordance with their democratically expressed wishes?
In other words, "populism" simply means the government doing it's proper job!

Of course if you ask someone on the other side what they think populism means, I doubt nowadays you'll get much answer beyond "Reeee! They are hateful hate hate hate!"