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ATP

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so good news bad news kind of thing.

Got a call from my boss, apparently he's being pushed by the local government to have us all have booster shots. Dispite the whole mask or jab deal with have, dispite the fact we were all promished that the jab would be the end of it. Thing is he's worried about it so he looked for some one to have the booster to see if its safe.

So good news is I'm getting an extra dollar per hour bad news is I'm that gunni pig.

I will tell you guys how it goes.

I wish you luck.And,that your boss is not Inca - they eat gunni pigs.
 

Bacle

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This is a more articulated view of my beliefs, too. Better than what I wrote, heh. But, call me cynical? I don't think there's going to be a peaceful solution. Their side won't allow or even consider it because they're "right".
I think that the Far-Left has burned more political good will among the populace than many realize.

Bill Maher is telling the Left that people do not listen to people they hate, and the Left has caused a lot of people to hate it because of political correctness.

Even the NYPD is resisting the vax bullshit now, and they are damn near the bodyguards of the US elite, while also being somewhat looked at as the US's most prestigious police dept.

We will see what happens in 2022.

I personally do not think violence will do anything productive towards fixing the clusterfuck we are in now, not after we've seen how the media and justice system has treated Jan 6th people vs how it treated people who looted and burned businesses and towns during the George Floyd shit.

This is a situation where MLK-like civil disobience and non-violence is far more practically useful, and where worker actions are impactful.

The elite want us to get violent, to justify more crap, and going the MLK/worker action route leaves them with fewer ways to try to jam up people for legal issues.
 

Rocinante

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I think that the Far-Left has burned more political good will among the populace than many realize.

Bill Maher is telling the Left that people do not listen to people they hate, and the Left has caused a lot of people to hate it because of political correctness.

Even the NYPD is resisting the vax bullshit now, and they are damn near the bodyguards of the US elite, while also being somewhat looked at as the US's most prestigious police dept.

We will see what happens in 2022.

I personally do not think violence will do anything productive towards fixing the clusterfuck we are in now, not after we've seen how the media and justice system has treated Jan 6th people vs how it treated people who looted and burned businesses and towns during the George Floyd shit.

This is a situation where MLK-like civil disobience and non-violence is far more practically useful, and where worker actions are impactful.

The elite want us to get violent, to justify more crap, and going the MLK/worker action route leaves them with fewer ways to try to jam up people for legal issues.
Just to be clear, when I say there may not be a way out without violence, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the right using violence to stop this, or that I support that as a solution. It very much can mean they'll be the victim of violence...and things are looking like they might get pretty violent.
 

Bacle

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Just to be clear, when I say there may not be a way out without violence, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the right using violence to stop this, or that I support that as a solution. It very much can mean they'll be the victim of violence...and things are looking like they might get pretty violent.
That's fair; the Left definitely feel no remorse about using violence against the Right, if they think they can get away with it.
 

LordsFire

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This is a situation where MLK-like civil disobience and non-violence is far more practically useful, and where worker actions are impactful.

The elite want us to get violent, to justify more crap, and going the MLK/worker action route leaves them with fewer ways to try to jam up people for legal issues.

The problem with this plan, is that in MLK's days it was him trying to get the non-leftists to stop the leftist violence.

Civil disobedience only works when the people holding the levers of power have a conscience; the leftist elite has none, and they're steadily indoctrinating more and more of their base not to have any either.
 

Bacle

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The problem with this plan, is that in MLK's days it was him trying to get the non-leftists to stop the leftist violence.

Civil disobedience only works when the people holding the levers of power have a conscience; the leftist elite has none, and they're steadily indoctrinating more and more of their base not to have any either.
You noticed I said worker actions as well, right?

You're seeing how the Long Shoreman's union in LA/Long Beach is part of what's holding up the supply chain because theyare having problems keeping people/working at full capacity due to vax, you saw how those ATC people/pilots were able to put pressure on their companies by simply being willing to walk away, and now even the NYPD associations are fighting back.

Civil disobedience via not masking or getting the vax or not being brow beaten into silence, combined with worker actions when the powers in DC try to get corpo's to do things they cannot because of the Constitution, is having real effects on the power the elite in DC hold.

I guarantee if all US truckers decided to stop rolling till the virus/vax bullshit was ended, it'd end pretty damn fast. The commies were right about one thing; worker actions can have greater effects on the ruling class than most types protest, particularly when the people taking a worker action are people who cannot be easily replaced.
 

Captain X

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I wonder how we could get the truckers to act? I guess I wonder about that, though, because as I recall, this was tried in Australia and as far as I know, nothing has changed, and they actually sent the police out there in full riot gear to arrest truckers blocking the roads.
 

Zachowon

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I wonder how we could get the truckers to act? I guess I wonder about that, though, because as I recall, this was tried in Australia and as far as I know, nothing has changed, and they actually sent the police out there in full riot gear to arrest truckers blocking the roads.
Well, a good amount of truckers are non union, and right leaning.

And most know if they needed to could stop the country.
It isn't bad enough yet
 

Captain X

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There's also a good chance that they'll lose their jobs if they do it. And between what we've seen in other industries and frankly what I've seen in some of the trucking companies, I wouldn't be surprised if they just replace them with completely unqualified people just to try to keep things going. It's true that this would probably eventually grind things down, but in the meantime all those truckers would be out of work.
 

The Whispering Monk

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There's also a good chance that they'll lose their jobs if they do it. And between what we've seen in other industries and frankly what I've seen in some of the trucking companies, I wouldn't be surprised if they just replace them with completely unqualified people just to try to keep things going. It's true that this would probably eventually grind things down, but in the meantime all those truckers would be out of work.
That only works if you can somehow replace all the vehicles run by Owner/Operators out there. That number is anywhere from 9% to 20% depending on whose figures you look at. There is already a shortage of trucking out there. IF that much just decides NOT to work and you pile on all the screw ups that inexperienced operators will cause (and I'm talking fatalities from truckers not really knowing how to handle the rigs too). You're going to see a HUGE amount of unrest if they decide not to play along.
 

Rocinante

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FQUOTE="Zachowon, post: 213074, member: 56"]
Would you rather him still be the head of public COVID ideas?
No?
It is a pyrrhic Victory
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First of all, I don't think he will be fired or forced to retire over this. They'll let it blow over manufacture a new crisis, and people will stop caring.

Second, while it's a good thing if he does lose his job, it's not a victory if he gets a nice comfortable retirement to live out his days in peace, when he's a criminal who has lied to Congress and is responsible for countless deaths.
 

Zachowon

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FQUOTE="Zachowon, post: 213074, member: 56"]
Would you rather him still be the head of public COVID ideas?
No?
It is a pyrrhic Victory
First of all, I don't think he will be fired or forced to retire over this. They'll let it blow over manufacture a new crisis, and people will stop caring.

Second, while it's a good thing if he does lose his job, it's not a victory if he gets a nice comfortable retirement to live out his days in peace, when he's a criminal who has lied to Congress and is responsible for countless deaths.
[/QUOTE]
It is a Pyrrhic victory.
We won, but is the victory really worthwhile?
And as long as he isn't pardoned, I don't think he cant have charges put later on
 

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