China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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f1onagher
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Has anyone in the State approved realms of communication brought up that simultaneously demanding that everyone takes a vaccine while signaling that it does nothing badly muddles signaling a makes attentive audiences suspicious? I know a few of the Pravda guys can occasionally wake up their brain cell when it's personally advantageous. I mean hell, Joe Rogan has had a pretty hefty spate of moderate and lefty people on over the past few weeks and all of them are angry and worried about the censorship and authoritarian signaling.
Poor Leader Fauci seems to have run out of reputation even in the receptive audiences.
Poor Leader Fauci seems to have run out of reputation even in the receptive audiences.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Biden calls on states to offer $100 vaccine incentives
President Biden on Thursday called on state and local governments to use funds from his $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan to offer $100 payments to individuals in order to incentivize coronavirus …
thehill.com
Inb4 gibs scam.
Biden calls on states to offer $100 vaccine incentives
President Biden on Thursday called on state and local governments to use funds from his $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan to offer $100 payments to individuals in order to incentivize coronavirus …
Inb4 gibs scam.
Honestly he probally should have gone with this first.
Threating people, talking down to people shaming people, that just made people suspecious if open bribery had been tried first people would have been more willing to go for it.
So the cycle will continue; they will lock us down through winter, maybe ease restrictions a bit next summer (or not, given the midterms).
Our pre-pandemic freedoms and liberties are never going to be fully restored, if the Dems and elites get their way.
The problem with this tactic is that while it worked great in 2020, it will work less great this year, and a little less great in 2022. The problem is simply this.
Lock downs are expensive as fuck, they manage to piss off huge swaths of the population. It pisses off a host of business owners and their paterons. Rich people go to resturants too and they were fucking livid when thier favorite places closed. So what happens long term?
Remember next year the boomers start retiring in mass, that means a global credit crunch. All those retirements have to be paid, so you have to pay for people on unemployment, you have to pay for retired folks your stuck bleeding money from all directions and a whole bunch of people have lost the things they enjoy and they all blame you.
Thats a recipe for a massive populist uprising, because this shit it affects every one.
This is not a winning long term stratagy.
Bigking321
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If they gave a damn about long-term strategy we wouldn't be in this mess.
They care about power and control and that's pretty much it.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Well that's too bad for them. Even if they aren't interested in the long term, the long term is certainly interested in them.
It'll all end in perfectly avoidable tears.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
If it's true expect more hidden infections in DC.
DarthOne
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Piers Morgan: Unvaccinated Should Be DENIED Medical Treatment and Left To Die
Piers Morgan: Unvaccinated Should Be DENIED Medical Treatment and Left To Die
Lockdown fanatic Piers Morgan is now calling for unvaccinated people to be completely banned from receiving medical treatment in the UK, even if they are dying. “Those who refuse to be vaccinated, with no medical [...]
newspunch.com
Lockdown fanatic Piers Morgan is now calling for unvaccinated people to be completely banned from receiving medical treatment in the UK, even if they are dying.
“Those who refuse to be vaccinated, with no medical reason not to, should be refused NHS care if they then catch covid,” Morgan hysterically tweeted. “I’m hearing of anti-vaxxers using up ICU beds in London at vast expense to the taxpayer. Let them pay for their own stupidity & selfishness.”
He then blasted those who haven’t taken the shot, calling them “incredibly stupid and deeply depressing,” asking, “What the f*ck is wrong with you????”
Summit.news reports: Essentially, Morgan is arguing that people who refuse to allow themselves to be injected with vaccines linked with innumerable side-effects to ward off a virus for which they have a 99.8 per cent survival rate should be left to die in order to save money.
If enacted, his ‘solution’ would also end up killing people who are admitted to hospital for ailments that have nothing to do with COVID, given that positive tests in hospitals are counted as COVID admissions even if the person is asymptomatic and is being treated for a non-COVID illness.
As we have repeatedly stressed, a two-tier society is now being created where discrimination targeting the unvaccinated is becoming not only normalized but encouraged.
Morgan is about one step removed from openly calling for the unvaccinated to be rounded up and incarcerated in medical prison camps.
An added irony to his faux-populist authoritarianism is that Morgan himself has been caught repeatedly flouting the same COVID-19 rules that he aggressively demands be imposed on everyone else.
DarthOne
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All the more reason we need to redouble our efforts and stay the course. Because if we don't, who will?
Megadeath
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Well, it's heartening to know that the people around you have more compassion and common sense. Here's hoping that it'll rub off on you a little. I mean, do you really think you're so much smarter than all of them?
Or, maybe large numbers of people you care for and respect to some degree disagreeing with you could suggest a degree of introspection on your part might be a good thing.
Megadeath
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Uh, why do you think it "seems to do jack shit"? That doesn't line up with the data coming from any country, and I'm sure given your job you'd realise how unlikely it is that every country regardless of geopolitical issues would agree to somehow force their medical establishment to force the data to fit a standardised lie for the sake of American corporations.
Airedale260
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What Biden’s Vaccination Plan Gets Wrong | National Review
Joe Biden announced his administration’s new efforts to increase coronavirus vaccinations — and got some things wrong while winging it.
www.nationalreview.com
Spoiler alert: A lot.
I get the desire to want to protect people, I really do. But at the same time, several more months of lockdowns and shit is not something I want to endure again. Same with much of America.
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
As I mentioned with...I think West Virginia who tried it on a small, lottery scale, if the goal was to target the people specifically hesitant to get vaccinated now that it's no longer the 'Trump vaccine', there'd be firearm giveaways to go with the vaccination.Biden calls on states to offer $100 vaccine incentives
President Biden on Thursday called on state and local governments to use funds from his $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan to offer $100 payments to individuals in order to incentivize coronavirus …
Inb4 gibs scam.
Pfizer get an AR, J&J nets an AK, Moderna get a Mossberg.
More seriously, bribes would at least be more honest than the supposed 'get vaccinated to go unmasked' stuff that was getting used as the selling point but now been piroutted away from because of breakthrough infections.
Of course, the CDC or government in general and 'honesty' in regards to Wuhan Flu has not exactly been positively correlated at any point in the last year except by accident.
Megadeath
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I agree it's not good, but what's the better alternative? Assuming you accept the numbers (At least roughly.) then covid has hit more than 1/10 of the American population, and killed >600,000 compared to something like 30,000 for the flu in the last relevant year best as I can find. That's a vastly worse effect even with lockdowns and all the other measures. If precautionary measures aren't taken that's liable to turn the "flu season" into an annual economy crippler. So... What's the better option?What Biden’s Vaccination Plan Gets Wrong | National Review
Joe Biden announced his administration’s new efforts to increase coronavirus vaccinations — and got some things wrong while winging it.
Spoiler alert: A lot.
I get the desire to want to protect people, I really do. But at the same time, several more months of lockdowns and shit is not something I want to endure again. Same with much of America.
Gee, it's almost like they can't know perfectly ahead of time what results their actions will have but are trying their best given the information and modelling they have. Why is it so unreasonable and implausible that their recommendations would evolve as the situation and their understanding of it does?As I mentioned with...I think West Virginia who tried it on a small, lottery scale, if the goal was to target the people specifically hesitant to get vaccinated now that it's no longer the 'Trump vaccine', there'd be firearm giveaways to go with the vaccination.
Pfizer get an AR, J&J nets an AK, Moderna get a Mossberg.
More seriously, bribes would at least be more honest than the supposed 'get vaccinated to go unmasked' stuff that was getting used as the selling point but now been piroutted away from because of breakthrough infections.
Of course, the CDC or government in general and 'honesty' in regards to Wuhan Flu has not exactly been positively correlated at any point in the last year except by accident.
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Because those recommendations have oft contradicted the understanding of things or the facts of the situation in service of a 'target' or goal they have in mind. As seen with the expansion of vaccines to teenagers, the required masking of teenagers in school, or the percentage-of-population goal of the CDC for vaccine deployment to reach a level of immunity that walked upwards as the number was approached--in contradiction of the science indicating danger to young individuals was near-negligible and their own statements as to what herd immunity consisted of.
Also, more generally, the panic being incited now whilst number of cases and hospitalizations are half or less than they were--whilst presented as being a major risk to all equivelant to last year when no vaccines were present.
But yes, heaven forfend our public health authorities and their political overlords be held to consistent standards. Much better for science and society that it all be based upon guesswork and whatever is convenient for the moment. That's how you build trust.