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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

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Don't know if it'll actually go anywhere. There was speculation in at least one NR article that the reason NIH allowed this was because U.S. intelligence wanted the access as a window into China's bioweapon research.

The U.S. figures it gets information it needs, while the virology community gets to continue to fuck around with its research, figuring nobody is going to be dumb enough to allow something this dangerous to leak. Then, when it does happen because people are stupid, everyone goes into CYA mode: China because it's ultimately responsible for this, EcoHealth and its friends because they kept insisting they were too smart to let something like this get loose despite growing concern, and the U.S. because it leads to some uncomfortable questions as to whether the quality of intelligence we got was worth this catastrophe, etc.

I'm not saying this lets Fauci or anyone else off the hook, just that the roots of this are likely a lot more complicated than anyone thinks. What we are seeing is a giant CYA exercise because it would be a massive embarrassment to the U.S.
 

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@Reveille just because the US Government supplied money does not make the US at fault for this.
This is about the funniest thing I've seen all day.

How involved do you want the US Gov. to be before you admit something?

I know, as a employee of the US Gov. you have to defend their reputation, but you really should draw a line somewhere.

Otherwise you're gonna end up as one of those US soldiers firing on your own people.
Look at how the rhetoric always breaks down.

“China did it!”

“No, America did it!”

We keep pointing the finger at each other while a cabal of unaccountable bureaucrats, oligarchs, and spooks with no loyalty to either China or the US lures us into war and chaos.



I’ll tell you guys what I think. I think the people who did this are the sort of people who do not believe in nation states. The sort of people who believe that the very idea of nation states is for little people.
 

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Look at how the rhetoric always breaks down.

“China did it!”

“No, America did it!”

We keep pointing the finger at each other while a cabal of unaccountable bureaucrats, oligarchs, and spooks with no loyalty to either China or the US lures us into war and chaos.



I’ll tell you guys what I think. I think the people who did this are the sort of people who do not believe in nation states. The sort of people who believe that the very idea of nation states is for little people.
War with China is going to happen. not because people want us to go to war (No matter who or what, us and China going to war will destroy the world economy so heavily it will make the great depression look like the 08 recession) but because China is starting to act like Nazi Germany mixed with Soviet Russia
 

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Using an old Facebook account (meant for doing things like mobile app offers), I'm seeing scores of people (anecdotally) stating things like they've had heart-issues, limb paralysis, blood clots, bad reactions. They're coming in at real-time (literally about 20 comments a second) from people the world over, and they're saying the same things over and over (also that the WHO are a bunch of discredited cunts, to paraphrase, lol).

Obviously some of these are bullshit: However, the sheer volume or such anecdotes from so many people? So quickly? Yeah. Take that as you will.
 

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Majority of people who have had no issues wont say they don't have issues.
 

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We need to take the CCP out before they unleash any ancient virus's on the rest of the world.
This is just normal research -- if this were in Alaska, I expect American scientists would do the same thing: China being incompetent and experimenting with the viruses, however, is a more pressing concern.

They've done it once, and they'll do it again.

Also, IIRC ancient viruses are actually not a threat to us because of evolution. The viruses only target certain animals/hosts which are now either extinct or have evolved into something different, even minutely.

People joke about time-travelers going back in time and infecting the dinosaurs with the flu virus, wiping them out or causing a Native American/European epidemic scenario, but the flu virus wouldn't actually effect the dinosaurs because it hadn't evolved to infect them.
 

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Using an old Facebook account (meant for doing things like mobile app offers), I'm seeing scores of people (anecdotally) stating things like they've had heart-issues, limb paralysis, blood clots, bad reactions. They're coming in at real-time (literally about 20 comments a second) from people the world over, and they're saying the same things over and over (also that the WHO are a bunch of discredited cunts, to paraphrase, lol).

Obviously some of these are bullshit: However, the sheer volume or such anecdotes from so many people? So quickly? Yeah. Take that as you will.
Ask them to prove it, I will bet you dollars to donuts they either don't answer or try to make an excuse about why they can't.
 

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Look at how the rhetoric always breaks down.

“China did it!”

“No, America did it!”

We keep pointing the finger at each other while a cabal of unaccountable bureaucrats, oligarchs, and spooks with no loyalty to either China or the US lures us into war and chaos.

I’ll tell you guys what I think. I think the people who did this are the sort of people who do not believe in nation states. The sort of people who believe that the very idea of nation states is for little people.
This.
"America" did not do it. "China' did not do it.
A small bunch of people did it. The rest of either nation did not do it.
 

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Have you heard about the 2nd plague in China?

The Monkey virus?

Because if that goes on the loose then we are really all screwed.

Corona was just a clean up operation for the globalist cabal. Get rid of as many old and weak people as possible.

Because a slave that can't produce value is not a useful slave
 

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This.
"America" did not do it. "China' did not do it.
A small bunch of people did it. The rest of either nation did not do it.
China does everything wrong and evil. They always should get blamed for as long as the CCP exists
 

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Ask them to prove it, I will bet you dollars to donuts they either don't answer or try to make an excuse about why they can't.
It was a random Facebook feed that was literally being updated with twenty plus posts per second, from international users.

What caught my attention was the pattern from users, independently from each other, was essentially saying the same things over and over.

Blood clots. Paralysis. Cardiac issues. Deaths.

I honestly believe these vaccines are dangerous, ineffective (amusingly enough, some guy said he was getting his fifth booster. Fifth), and I consider people constantly pushing for their use pretty much anti-anti-vaxxors.
 

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It was a random Facebook feed that was literally being updated with twenty plus posts per second, from international users.

What caught my attention was the pattern from users, independently from each other, was essentially saying the same things over and over.
Everyone is waking up around the world.

Blood clots. Paralysis. Cardiac issues. Deaths.
Pure the sick, old, and weak. That was the plan for this plague.

Because the globalist slavemaster cabal doesn't need slaves that don't produce value.

I honestly believe these vaccines are dangerous, ineffective (amusingly enough, some guy said he was getting his fifth booster. Fifth), and I consider people constantly pushing for their use pretty much anti-anti-vaxxors.
The initial wave of the plague was for wiping out the old and the weak.

The vaccine is for wiping out those with weak genes/immune systems.

Because a slave that doesn't produce value is a useless slave.
 

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Everyone is waking up around the world.


Pure the sick, old, and weak. That was the plan for this plague.

Because the globalist slavemaster cabal doesn't need slaves that don't produce value.


The initial wave of the plague was for wiping out the old and the weak.

The vaccine is for wiping out those with weak genes/immune systems.

Because a slave that doesn't produce value is a useless slave.
It’s just like I’ve been telling folks I know IRL. These bastards are trying to rob the pension fund and kill off retirees. Our parents and grandparents. Imagine that. Imagine wageslaving all your life, and then the Cabal are like “Nope, sorry, you can’t enjoy your retirement, you have to die immediately and free up resources for more of our cattle.”

Insanity.
 
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