"Woke" Franchises

[DarthOne]

Frustration, but it feels sad watching them continue to cling to the dead corpses of their favorite franchises after all these years.

Yes, the fall of Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel and DC comics to corporations that been fully converged by the woke is sad, but complaining isn't going to change anything. The franchises you loved are gone and they're never coming back, not in the way you want them. Stop worshipping franchises. Move on with your life. Find new things to enjoy. No, you're not going to find new genre movies and TV with high production values like Star Wars that isn't woke. That era is over. You have to embrace other mediums like anime or indie published books and comics. Support them.

Yes and no. Sorta. While most of us know that those franchises are unlikely to pull a turnaround, we can still love them for what they were, all be it while trying not to line their current owners' pockets with our money.

Continuing to criticize what they've become allows other like-minded fans to know 'you aren't alone out there', especially if they didn't know, thanks to astroturfing, of how many other people share their views. It helps give informed reasons why not to go buy more. Not to mention that woke creators don't like to have their BS called out, as well as continuing to show anyone who bothers to look that no, we aren't doing this because we're a bunch of 'ists' or 'phobes'.

Furthermore, I submit to you that one of the reasons why woke culture got so bad is that people kept giving ground to the crybully SJW types. SJWs would show up, pull their 'cycle of inclusiveness' trick, people would leave and try to build new communities, web forums, what have you when the ones they used to be on got taken over...only for the SJWs to follow them or to use the opportunity to ideologically quarantine them.

It's why the specter of Gamergate keeps getting brought up. Because that was the first time in forever that the woke crowd faced actual resistance that didn't roll over and die when they started screaming the usual claims.

Spoiler: SJW cycle of Inclusiveness for the Uninitiated

Edit: grammar

 

[BlackDragon98]

Hopefully the high water mark of this KultureKampf is in sight.
These woke shits have ruined pretty much everything within sight.

 

[Doomsought]

Hopefully the high water mark of this KultureKampf is in sight.
These woke shits have ruined pretty much everything within sight.

They are trying to make the transition from subversion to coercion. It doesn't matter as long as they win the last few moves.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Hopefully the high water mark of this KultureKampf is in sight.
These woke shits have ruined pretty much everything within sight.

Not even close. Soon they will socially-criminalise criticism of their cultural products. You wont be arrested for it..but you will be subject to social execution if you publically declare you hate the new star wars.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Not even close. Soon they will socially-criminalise criticism of their cultural products. You wont be arrested for it..but you will be subject to social execution if you publically declare you hate the new star wars.

We're already there. Seriously, go to SB and post a criticism of new Star Wars. See how long it takes for you to be called racist, followed by the thread being locked out of nowhere.

 

[DarthOne]

We're already there. Seriously, go to SB and post a criticism of new Star Wars. See how long it takes for you to be called racist, followed by the thread being locked out of nowhere.

“When everything is racist, nothing is.”

 

[BlackDragon98]

Not even close. Soon they will socially-criminalise criticism of their cultural products. You wont be arrested for it..but you will be subject to social execution if you publically declare you hate the new star wars.

I really couldn't care less about social execution, considering I was always the loner in my high school class.
Never really fit in with any group and I hardly use any social media these days beyond Instagram for communication purposes.
Let them scream, let them howl, let them rant.
Because I've got nuttin' to fear with my rifle by my side!

And given how their products are performing financially (I've seen pictures of unsold Disney Star Wars DVDs and Blu-rays by the dozen in stores along with unsold Disney Star Wars toys and collectables) I believe the end of the Disney Empire is in sight.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

I really couldn't care less about social execution, considering I was always the loner in my high school class.
Never really fit in with any group and I hardly use any social media these days beyond Instagram for communication purposes.
Let them scream, let them howl, let them rant.
Because I've got nuttin' to fear with my rifle by my side!

And given how their products are performing financially (I've seen pictures of unsold Disney Star Wars DVDs and Blu-rays by the dozen in stores along with unsold Disney Star Wars toys and collectables) I believe the end of the Disney Empire is in sight.

By socially executed I mean get you fired and completely deplatformed.

 

[Bear Ribs]

By socially executed I mean get you fired and completely deplatformed.

So Gina Carano?

 

[Argent]

So I was one a flight this last weekend and the movie choices where general6older movies I did want to watch again. But I saw Craft Legacy.

So frist off this is a sequel to the 1996 movie the Craft. The main plot of the old movie is that a bunch outcasts at a reglious school band together and from a coven. Overall the main conflict is about how power corrupts and unintended consequences can happen. Overall it was a decent movie from what I remember.


The new movie has none of that and has decided that the main theme should be Girl Power and Men bad. So to start off with it starts the same with a new girl moving to town to live with her step dad and family. Her showing magic at school leads to finding a bunch of other outcasts and forming a coven.

Thoughout the movie the standard social Justice lines are peppered around. The main spell casted is one that mind controls a generally jerky guy that main fun of the main character's period bleeding though her pants.

But it is o.k. because it turns out that he is much nicer and becomes friends with the coven, not to mention he was just acting out cause no accepts him being Bisexual.

He starts to like the same bands and how they put in lines about gender poltics into their songs just like the Coven. He also starts to yell at other immature guys I
sex ed about how they should just listen.

Just forget he was mind controlled to act like the coven's perfect guy.

Then he commits "sucide" after the main character casts a love spell on him. This leads the coven breaking up and binding their powers.

But wait the twist comes and shows how the girls did nothing wrong. It was the evil step dad (who represents traditional Masculinity) that was trying to steal the main character's magic all along. Also has a long speech about how women. Should be barefoot and in the kicten to really drive home the point that he is a bad bad man.

But never fear the coven comes together and saves the day.

Overall there is no tension, the conflict is almost nonexistent and main villain feels like an afterthought. Not to mention the one throw away line about how of the Coven is trans and has special trans magic to check that box.

This movie is fully some and everything g wrong with the wokeness movement.

That is not even getting into the fact that this movie has nothing to do with the frist outside a small 10 second scene at the end.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

But wait the twist comes and shows how the girls did nothing wrong. It was the evil step dad (who represents traditional Masculinity) that was trying to steal the main character's magic all along. Also has a long speech about how women. Should be barefoot and in the kicten to really drive home the point that he is a bad bad man.

Y'know, with how the heroines acted like you describe, I can't help but agree with him.

 

[Doomsought]

We need a puking tribble.

 

[Argent]

Y'know, with how the heroines acted like you describe, I can't help but agree with him.

The big that really got me was after the main character confessed to casting the love spell the rest of them talked about consent and how she was wrong. Which is true snice a love spell is just like drugging a women at a bar. But the thing is that they didn't care that they all did the same thing when they broke into the guys house yo cast the frist mind control spell.

But no the main character is evil for doing a second mind control spell because the consequences where things the other coven members did not like.

 

[Navarro]

Y'know, with how the heroines acted like you describe, I can't help but agree with him.

It's like that "Witch" horror movie.

"What if witches as conceived by the Puritans were real and really did all the horrible things that were ascribed to them ... but they were actually good because GIRL POWER!".

 

[Von_Lohengram]

No, you're not going to find new genre movies and TV with high production values like Star Wars that isn't woke. That era is over. You have to embrace other mediums like anime or indie published books and comics. Support them.

Sure you can still find movies and TV with high production values that isn't woke, just not Western ones. One the reasons Netflix IPs being a woke-fest hasn't gotten me to cancel my subscription is because Netflix has quite a big selection of Asian movies and TV. Not that there's anything wrong with supporting anime, but it's not the only escape.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Sure you can still find movies and TV with high production values that isn't woke, just not Western ones. One the reasons Netflix IPs being a woke-fest hasn't gotten me to cancel my subscription is because Netflix has quite a big selection of Asian movies and TV. Not that there's anything wrong with supporting anime, but it's not the only escape.

I haven't seen any really good Asian genre film shows or TV.

• Chinese Xianxia TV shows like Ice Fantasy, which.. well, they try. But the CGI and costumes look fake. (EDIT: just remembered that there is a new Xianxia show called Untamed. Dunno about that one. Will have to check it out).
• Korea doesn't really do epic, high budget genre shows. Well, unless you likst low key historical rom-coms like Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryung. Mr. Sunshine was pretty decent. Otherwise, it's either modern day rom-coms, or detective shows.
• I can't think of any big genre shows or movies to come out of Japan within the past 20 years.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

@Val the Moofia Boss I'm going to be honest with you. If they can destroy your favorite franchises they can and will kill you. Gina was proof of that. It doesn't matter if you create your own franchises or heck even cultures, as long as these parasites breath (in terms of influence) they will grift and drain the blood of culture after culture. you can cry, you can run, you can hide heck you're probably going to do all three, but eventually your going to have no where to go and that's when they will do you end. No this SJW bullcrap has to end here and now.

 

[Abhorsen]

Korea doesn't really do epic, high budget genre shows. Well, unless you likst low key historical rom-coms like Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryung. Mr. Sunshine was pretty decent. Otherwise, it's either modern day rom-coms, or detective shows.

My boss has seen some really good Korean stuff. There was one with a women who ends up in North Korea, and according to him, it was very good. There was another one where an architect found out his wife was cheating on him with his boss that was also good (sorry I can't remember the names).

As for Japan, other than all of anime (the things I watch), there's also Terrace House, which my brother swears by.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Sure you can still find movies and TV with high production values that isn't woke, just not Western ones. One the reasons Netflix IPs being a woke-fest hasn't gotten me to cancel my subscription is because Netflix has quite a big selection of Asian movies and TV. Not that there's anything wrong with supporting anime, but it's not the only escape.

That you can essentially binge watch Studio Ghibli films on there has made me very pleased with it (and I don't fully agree with some of their messages. Miyazaki can get a bit too rabidly anti-military sometimes). Got a taster, will get a subscription. Also, there's a fair few "pre-woke" works around on there (Dredd 2012, my guys) which are highly enjoyable.

 

[Abhorsen]

That you can essentially binge watch Studio Ghibli films on there has made me very pleased with it (and I don't fully agree with some of their messages. Miyazaki can get a bit too rabidly anti-military sometimes). Got a taster, will get a subscription. Also, there's a fair few "pre-woke" works around on there (Dredd 2012, my guys) which are highly enjoyable.

I mean, there's a ton of nonwoke films. Gate, although crap harem shit, is all Japanese Empire 2.0 in the fantasy world. The Saga of Tanya the Evil is very, very, nonwoke.

Also, I figure I should dump the most hilarious 'woke' movie here: My Beautiful Laundrette.

So the idea of the movie was t shove a political message about how bad Thatcherism was down people's throat, by focusing on a gay immigrant in the 80s. What it ended up showing was that a) the free market gets rid of racial bias because it can't be afforded, b) being intellectual is useless and gets you nowhere, c) opening a small business is the key to freedom.

It's one of the most pro-capitalist, anti-woke films out there, completely contrary to the design of the writer.