"Woke" Franchises

[CarlManvers2019]

Good, the vast majority of anime is shit.

When it comes to shit, we all have preferences

>Otakus
>choose
A man chooses.

A slave obeys

If it'll go to shit it'll go to shit. Hope there's something good to see after everything goes to shit.

As I said before, I believe in-regards to problems people ignore, don’t do much research into or lie to themselves and others about

It has to get worse before it gets better

It has to get so much worse that they can’t deny who and what is at fault, then they might heal....they’re probably gonna end up giving idiots like Mark Waid permanent power over some manga company

 

[Arch Dornan]

When it comes to shit, we all have preferences



A slave obeys



As I said before, I believe in-regards to problems people ignore, don’t do much research into or lie to themselves and others about

It has to get worse before it gets better

It has to get so much worse that they can’t deny who and what is at fault, then they might heal....they’re probably gonna end up giving idiots like Mark Waid permanent power over some manga company

And so we have to suffer their presence for the next many years or so.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

And so we have to suffer their presence for the next many years or so.

The Japanese Entertainment guys can also be really stubborn and out-of-touch themselves

Look at the repeated decision to use shitty CGI for Berserk even after people not responding so well

The difference is that compared to Americans, they’re not as obsessed with social movements and being above the base desires of customers

 

[Terthna]

Good, the vast majority of anime is shit.

Everything is shit, depending on your perspective; including that thing you like. You know what I'm talking about, you degenerate filth.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Everything is shit, depending on your perspective; including that thing you like. You know what I'm talking about, you degenerate filth.

"There's no such thing as value"
-literal post modern leftism

 

[Husky_Khan]

Also post modern left regarding Anime

The troubling relationship between anime and fascism

Was my reaction petty? Should I have just powered through the series even if the uniforms offended me? Other anime fans were able to watch this without getting upset, so why couldn't I? Perhaps most importantly, why do a considerable number of anime series have Nazi expys?

www.syfy.com

Here's Why There's Anime Fan Art Of President Trump All Over Your Facebook

Here's how Japan's infamous online army, the <i>netto-uyoku</i>, has shaped the far-right movement in America.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The fascist subtext of Attack on Titan can’t go overlooked

The story’s twist exposes the ugly side of the manga and anime

www.polygon.com

How the internet spawned 21st-century fascism

In "It Came From Something Awful", Dale Beran explores the origins and the psychology of the alt-right

www.salon.com

Racist Trump supporters 'masturbate to anime,' says GOP strategist

Racist Trump supporters 'masturbate to anime,' says GOP strategist

mashable.com

Well except that guy... Wilson is a good boy. He thinks all anime is trash as well.

Sean Spicer though, you valueless degenerate filthmonger!!!

 

[Terthna]

"There's no such thing as value"
-literal post modern leftism

Oh there's value to be found; it's just entirely subjective, particularly when it comes to entertainment. I mean, I love anime, and you think most of it is "shit"; that pretty much proves it right there.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Oh there's value to be found; it's just entirely subjective, particularly when it comes to entertainment. I mean, I love anime, and you think most of it is "shit"; that pretty much proves it right there.

You love anime, and I think most of it is shit. I happen to be correct, and you happen to be wrong.
Subjectivism is a cancer.

 

[King Krávoka]

Subjectivism is a cancer.

Shit anime is made under paradigms that hold pandering garbage to be objectively superior.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Shit anime is made under paradigms that hold pandering garbage to be objectively superior.

Correct.

 

[Abhorsen]

Subjectivism is a cancer.

Oddly enough, the subjective nature of value is why the free market assigns prices correctly and socialists can't. Not so much of a cancer now, is it?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Oddly enough, the subjective nature of value is why the free market assigns prices correctly and socialists can't. Not so much of a cancer now, is it?

I just like the irony of dropping Andrew Ryan quotes about how a man chooses and a slave obeys and we get to this scintillating commentary about how subjectivism is cancer.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Oddly enough, the subjective nature of value is why the free market assigns prices correctly and socialists can't. Not so much of a cancer now, is it?

That doesn't follow whatsoever, unless you're suggesting what succeeds and what fails in the market is completely random, which would be insane.

I just like the irony of dropping Andrew Ryan quotes about how a man chooses and a slave obeys and we get to this scintillating commentary about how subjectivism is cancer.

Someone would twist a quote to their own devices? Shocking! What is it your first day on the internet?
I do love the "Choice means everything's subjective" dint though. That was worth a chuckle.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I just like the irony of dropping Andrew Ryan quotes about how a man chooses and a slave obeys and we get to this scintillating commentary about how subjectivism is cancer.

Let's just admit that people actually like "crap" and at least it has an ACTUAL audience

If the people who you pander to actually buy, don't care if it's crap, they actually sell

I hate Isekai, but I think it's way better than all the WOKE shit SJW's in the West make for a people who'll never buy and probably preferred it when it wasn't WOKE

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I'm gonna bet that those SJWs now in Japan will end up having to deal with ACTUAL harassment and actually RABID fans

Ruin their waifu and they may actually send you death threats

 

[Abhorsen]

That doesn't follow whatsoever, unless you're suggesting what succeeds and what fails in the market is completely random, which would be insane.

No, the subjective theory of value states that the value of an object is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Thus different people might value the same object differently, which is what makes trade possible, because both people are better off (a win-win trade). This concept of trade is the fundamental building block of capitalism, and it needs subjective value to work.

In contrast, marxists like the labor theory of value, where an objects value is dependent on how much labor went into it.

What rises and falls in the market isn't random, but it is based entirely on the subjective opinions of people. For example, look at the water diamond paradox. Water is a whole lot more valuable than diamonds in a desert, but in NYC, it's the other way around.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Let's just admit that people actually like "crap" and at least it has an ACTUAL audience

If the people who you pander to actually buy, don't care if it's crap, they actually sell

I hate Isekai, but I think it's way better than all the WOKE shit SJW's in the West make for a people who'll never buy and probably preferred it when it wasn't WOKE

Well of course people like all sorts of things I don't like. I have no interest in watching most anime but while it's not my particular taste, I never maligned the whole genre as crap. Just not something I'm into. I certainly wouldn't be presumptuous enough to simply state my opinion as fact without substantiation. But when I shitpost, it tends to be positive and civil as opposed to needlessly trollish drivel.

No, the subjective theory of value states that the value of an object is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Thus different people might value the same object differently, which is what makes trade possible, because both people are better off (a win-win trade). This concept of trade is the fundamental building block of capitalism, and it needs subjective value to work.

In contrast, marxists like the labor theory of value, where an objects value is dependent on how much labor went into it.

What rises and falls in the market isn't random, but it is based entirely on the subjective opinions of people. For example, look at the water diamond paradox. Water is a whole lot more valuable than diamonds in a desert, but in NYC, it's the other way around.

No... it's quite clear all anime is shit... look at how it has all failed in the marketplace both in Japan and abroad.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

In contrast, marxists like the labor theory of value, where an objects value is dependent on how much labor went into it.

Slight irony, I don't think the WOKEtivists even put much effort into the things they make

What rises and falls in the market isn't random, but it is based entirely on the subjective opinions of people. For example, look at the water diamond paradox. Water is a whole lot more valuable than diamonds in a desert, but in NYC, it's the other way around.

And if you're extremely desperate for entertainment and have no other alternatives, you'd buy WOKE-shit because it's the only thing available

That is unless you decide to create your own alternative, like watching grass grow

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

No, the subjective theory of value states that the value of an object is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Thus different people might value the same object differently, which is what makes trade possible, because both people are better off (a win-win trade). This concept of trade is the fundamental building block of capitalism, and it needs subjective value to work.

In contrast, marxists like the labor theory of value, where an objects value is dependent on how much labor went into it.

What rises and falls in the market isn't random, but it is based entirely on the subjective opinions of people. For example, look at the water diamond paradox. Water is a whole lot more valuable than diamonds in a desert, but in NYC, it's the other way around.

All that requires is that objective value isn't universally appreciated, combined with context requiring different resources.

Contextual market value is not the same thing as subjectivism as a philosophy, and the attempt to conflate the two is a ridiculous and meaningless word game.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Well of course people like all sorts of things I don't like. I have no interest in watching most anime but while it's not my particular taste, I never maligned the whole genre as crap. Just not something I'm into. I certainly wouldn't be presumptuous enough to simply state my opinion as fact without substantiation. But when I shitpost, it tends to be positive and civil as opposed to needlessly trollish drivel.

Okay, that said I'll now go back to waiting for Date A Live V22 to be translated to english

Say, I'm watching Primal Season 2 right now



Any chance if it'll go WOKE? Not sure about Genndy Tartakovsky's politics, but if he leans Left, I think he can somehow make it go WOKE even if this' a setting with no dialogue or much in-terms of people or things to use as societal analogies