"Woke" Franchises

[KilroywasNOTHere]

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Warning: spoilers for X-Men #18 ahead!The X-Men's Resurrection Protocols have shaken up the status quo of the Marvel universe, but this apparent 'cure' for death comes with a dark secret: one Laura Kinney's Wolverine is now being forced to grapple with. While the Protocols create new versions of any given mutant, this is essentially down to a process of duplication, not true resurrection. This has disturbing consequences for the X-Men, as well as all in the Marvel universe who want to use the Protocols to escape death.


The complications began in Jonathan Hickman, R.B. Silva, Marte Gracia, and Clayton Cowles' X-Men #5, when Laura, Synch, and Darwin were sent inside the Vault: a temporally separate biome used by the lethal Children of the Vault to rapidly out-evolve mutantkind. Ultimately, Synch escaped, but Laura stayed behind and was believed to have been killed, so she was promptly resurrected using copies of her personality taken before the mission. Fast-forward to Gerry Duggan, Joshua Cassara, and Cowles' X-Men #16, where another raid into the Vault reveals that Laura, while aged hundreds of years, has been alive this whole time.

Duggan, C.F. Villa, Matt Milla, and Cowles' X-Men #18 largely concerns itself with the ramifications of having two extant Laura Kinneys at the same time. The old and young Lauras meet up to discuss just what that means: for example, who gets the title of Wolverine? Which of their personalities will be used for future resurrection should one of them die? Ultimately, the two part with a mutual understanding, but with the older Laura telling her counterpart that, "I'm happy you get to live a different life, and this isn't personal...but I don't want to be your friend...I don't even want to see you."

So they are pretty much admitting that the X-Men and probably all of the marvel characters that the Legacy fans knew were Quite literally killed off a wild back and this is a completely different set of characters for a new audience...if you are going to make a completely new set of characters, why not retire (as in stop having stories take place in NOT completely blow up or erasing from reality) Earth-616 and create a new universe to tell marvel stories from (The multiverse is supposed to be infinite so pick an earth any earth) or just make a new IP all-together?

 

[Bear Ribs]

So, a lot of people were upset that Scooby wasn't in the Velma cartoon. Well, rejoice! the showrunners have heard your concerns, and have provided!

 

[Zyobot]

So, a lot of people were upset that Scooby wasn't in the Velma cartoon. Well, rejoice! the showrunners have heard your concerns, and have provided!

Me if that’s true:

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

So, a lot of people were upset that Scooby wasn't in the Velma cartoon. Well, rejoice! the showrunners have heard your concerns, and have provided!

So what are they saying? That black women are on the same level as Great Danes?

 

[Scooby Doo]

So what are they saying? That black women are on the same level as Great Danes?

This must be that Transcanine I've been hearing about.

 

[Zyobot]

This must be that Transcanine I've been hearing about.

Me, a rational human:

 

[TheRejectionist]

The star of Netflix show "Wedsnday" is woke :

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Her linktree in the bio leads directly to the linktree website of Planned Parenthood.

And one her show collegues is currentlt be accused of the P word.

I can skip the show now.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

And one her show collegues is currentlt be accused of the P word.

What word?

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

What word?

Probably pedophile.

 

[ShieldWife]

Of course she’s woke. Everybody in Hollywood is woke until proven otherwise. Though with her in particular, the Wednesday show is woke and her casting was in large part to make a point about having a Hispanic Wednesday.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Though with her in particular, the Wednesday show is woke and her casting was in large part to make a point about having a Hispanic Wednesday.

FFS they already have Taco Tuesday!

 

[King Arts]

Of course she’s woke. Everybody in Hollywood is woke until proven otherwise. Though with her in particular, the Wednesday show is woke and her casting was in large part to make a point about having a Hispanic Wednesday.

To be fair Wednesday was Hispanic. I mean her father is named Gomez.

 

[Terthna]

To be fair Wednesday was Hispanic. I mean her father is named Gomez.

Who's brother is a pasty white guy named Fester.

 

[nemo1986]

Who's brother is a pasty white guy named Fester.

He could be Gomez's step brother. To be an Addams seems to be a state of mind versus blood.

 

[ShieldWife]

To be fair Wednesday was Hispanic. I mean her father is named Gomez.

The Addams family were never previously notably Hispanic. When Raul Julia was cast as Gomez for the 1991 movie, nobody made a big deal about his ethnicity, for or against. He was just the guy who played Gomez and he did a great job. If Jenna Ortega had been similarly cast, then it also wouldn’t be a big deal.

But that isn’t what they did. The makers made a point of emphasizing that Wednesday was Hispanic (or Latinx or whatever they’re calling it these days) to make a political statement.

The first actor to play Gomez was a WASP - John Astin - who didn’t play him as being Hispanic, though they do use a few words and Yiddish phrases in the original show. If Desi Arnaz had been cast to play him, I still don’t think there would have been any political significance to their race or casting - until this particular iteration of the show.

Though from the little bit of the Wednesday show I’ve seen, it seems to hit feminist politics more heavily than race politics.

 

[King Arts]

The Addams family were never previously notably Hispanic. When Raul Julia was cast as Gomez for the 1991 movie, nobody made a big deal about his ethnicity, for or against. He was just the guy who played Gomez and he did a great job. If Jenna Ortega had been similarly cast, then it also wouldn’t be a big deal.

But that isn’t what they did. The makers made a point of emphasizing that Wednesday was Hispanic (or Latinx or whatever they’re calling it these days) to make a political statement.

The first actor to play Gomez was a WASP - John Astin - who didn’t play him as being Hispanic, though they do use a few words and Yiddish phrases in the original show. If Desi Arnaz had been cast to play him, I still don’t think there would have been any political significance to their race or casting - until this particular iteration of the show.

Though from the little bit of the Wednesday show I’ve seen, it seems to hit feminist politics more heavily than race politics.

Well the guy from I love Lucy I did not know was Hispanic. But yeah Hispanic people are mostly white so in a black and white movie/show it would be hard to tell. But I do agree with you it is eye roll worthy to virtue signal about the race of the person you cast for an actor.

 

[ShieldWife]

Well the guy from I love Lucy I did not know was Hispanic. But yeah Hispanic people are mostly white so in a black and white movie/show it would be hard to tell. But I do agree with you it is eye roll worthy to virtue signal about the race of the person you cast for an actor.

Everybody knew that Desi Arnaz was Hispanic, he had an obvious Cuban accent on I Love Lucy. Even in the 1950’s and with him married to a white woman, nobody cared. If they made that show today, they’d say “Take that white supremacists, this show is about a Lantinx man married to a white woman.”

Back to Wednesday, I don’t care that Jenna Ortega is Hispanic and I don’t think that many people on the right do, but these days race changes to traditionally white characters is deliberate practice to make an anti-white political statement.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

they call themselves progressives yet they are brick by brick undoing all of the actual progress that's been made.

On the bright side: Spider-Verse 2 Is A Searing Critique Of Marvel's Worst Spider-Man Decision

it looks like Spider-man prime (or at least a very close version of him) is embracing fatherhood once again. Only took them ten years. Hopefully, we will see a resurgence of the Spider-Girl Fandom.

 

[Sol Zagato]

The Addams family were never previously notably Hispanic.

Gomez Addams, in the original comic, looked like an ugly Hispanic man, not dashing like (the Puerto Rican) Raul Julia.

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/sites/default/files/2019-10/PennGazAddams.jpg

Just linking because I won't download the imgur app, bastards.

Anyways, it was jarring to go back to the comic design, but the worst thing about Luis Guzman's casting is he wasn't energetic. He kinda nails the original comic look.

Though from the little bit of the Wednesday show I’ve seen, it seems to hit feminist politics more heavily than race politics.

Yeah, the feminism was totally out of place coming out of Wednesday's mouth.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Gomez Addams, in the original comic, looked like an ugly Hispanic man, not dashing like (the Puerto Rican) Raul Julia.

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/sites/default/files/2019-10/PennGazAddams.jpg

Just linking because I won't download the imgur app, bastards.

Anyways, it was jarring to go back to the comic design, but the worst thing about Luis Guzman's casting is he wasn't energetic. He kinda nails the original comic look.


Yeah, the feminism was totally out of place coming out of Wednesday's mouth.

Wednesday and Pugsley also swapped personalities from the comic/original show to the remakes. Wednesday was the sensitive emotional one and Pugsley was the ice-cold serial killer in training in the Old School Addams.