Who is more evil, the God-Emperor of Man or Emperor Palpatine?

Who is more evil?


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ShieldWife

Marchioness
He'd probably still be in hiding actually.
That is a good point. Through out most of human history, despite numerous tyrants and calamities, the God Emperor has been content to either allow events to unfold naturally or to influence only in subtle ways. At least until 2016, when he decided to become president of the USA, albeit hiding his supernatural abilities. There is every reason to think that within the Star Wars galaxy, barring some existential threat to humanity, that the GEOM will remain hidden.

I’d prefer to live under Palpy, not because his empire is better run, but because Warhammer galaxy is completely fucked up even without any humans input compared to Star wars Galaxy.
Some Planet in the Imperium are actually quite ok to live on, the problem is that you don‘t know when annihilation or damnation will simply fall on your head.
Another consideration in making that choice is that in the 40K galaxy, humans have souls that are literally devoured by d(a)emons upon death. In the Star Wars setting, there might actually be a pleasant afterlife through the Force.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
Well, some do get saved by the GEOM, but yeah, it’s overall just an unpleasant place to be in general, be it in life or death.
It would be nice if those people who are devoted to the Emperor go to him after death, much like the souls of the servants of Chaos Gods go to those gods after death. I don't recall reading much about that though, I get the impression that it's rare.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
It would be nice if those people who are devoted to the Emperor go to him after death, much like the souls of the servants of Chaos Gods go to those gods after death. I don't recall reading much about that though, I get the impression that it's rare.
I like to think the Bravest and most Pious have a place at his side, unfortunately considering his situation and the state of the galaxy he probably can’t save everyone.
 

Typhonis

Well-known member
One point about 40k is that it is a setting where a talky toaster can become possessed by a demon. In fact the Imperium is not evil. It's just so large that common people are ignored. When you loose entire planets due to rounding errors. Joe average on Seti Alpha Bumfuck of Nowhere is just not important.
 

Lanmandragon

Well-known member
Indeed. It's a character trait that has been repeated consistently by many authors. Also reading through the lore that describes the time before 30k make it look like he never took any prominent role.
He did a few times I believe dude was Christ for example. Unless that's been retconned for the cast majority though he was hidden.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
He did a few times I believe dude was Christ for example. Unless that's been retconned for the cast majority though he was hidden.
The claim that the emperor was Christ thing is a fanon thing. One repeated by leftcucks when they try to turn off players by insinuating they are antichrisitan for playing the game.

In fact, it's not actually stated who he was or if he even was any famous person at all. With his claim that he lived in the shadows, being any given famous person would run counter to that claim.
 

Lanmandragon

Well-known member
The claim that the emperor was Christ thing is a fanon thing. One repeated by leftcucks when they try to turn off players by insinuating they are antichrisitan for playing the game.

In fact, it's not actually stated who he was or if he even was any famous person at all. With his claim that he lived in the shadows, being any given famous person would run counter to that claim.
What a pathetic insult it's not anti-anything just random lore. People are ridiculous Jesus that's stupid.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
What a pathetic insult it's not anti-anything just random lore. People are ridiculous Jesus that's stupid.
The problem is, anyone proclaiming themselves to be Christ is blasphemous at best and apocalythic at worst. Because one sign of the apocalypse is someone, aka the antichrist, proclaiming themselves to be the messiah. The smug left who have never somuch as touched a bible then claim this bullshit that any christian is a hypocrite if they play Warhammer. It's the typical "do as your silly book says, but by my interpretations!"
 

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
The claim that the emperor was Christ thing is a fanon thing. One repeated by leftcucks when they try to turn off players by insinuating they are antichrisitan for playing the game.

In fact, it's not actually stated who he was or if he even was any famous person at all. With his claim that he lived in the shadows, being any given famous person would run counter to that claim.

Trump is the God emperor in disguise obviously.
 

mrttao

Well-known member
It is important to not conflate the imperium of man with the god emperor of mankind
The 40k imperium of man is what you get 10,000 years after GEOM died.

For example, under the GEOM religion was outlawed, mandatory atheism for everyone. Emps personally burned down all the churches on terra, and when the word bearer legion defied him and started converting people to worshipping him he has shown his displeasure via orbital bombardment.
While 10k years after his death the imperium is a theocracy that worships GEOM.

BTW, is it a display error that the OP of this thread have 3 separate "banned" ribbons under his name?
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
I figured I'd spread my taint to other forums, so. I think Palpatine.

Palpatine, though Emprah is hardly sunshine and rainbows either.

Palpatine is IIRC just a megalomaniacal dictator. He is a Sith Lord, and utterly evil and self-centered dictator. He created the Empire because he wanted to be at the top.

Emperor is a riddle wrapped in an enigma packaged inside a labyrinth lazing in a black hole. But there is a good chance that he is altruistic, and truly has best interests of humanity at his heart. But he is flawed.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
Yeah it's hard to know how the galaxy would've ended up if Palpatine did end up with unchallenged mastery of the Galaxy and it shifted from the Imperial Empire to the Dark Empire and how evil it may or may not have become. So the true depths of any potential evil could never really be examined since it was never explained, even in some sort of AU type of stuff. Plus even in the past we never really saw prolonged periods of Sith control of the galaxy. Maybe for a span of years or for longer periods of time over smaller swaths of the galaxy but there's nothing to reference really.
 

Archinist.

Active member
Yeah it's hard to know how the galaxy would've ended up if Palpatine did end up with unchallenged mastery of the Galaxy and it shifted from the Imperial Empire to the Dark Empire and how evil it may or may not have become. So the true depths of any potential evil could never really be examined since it was never explained, even in some sort of AU type of stuff. Plus even in the past we never really saw prolonged periods of Sith control of the galaxy. Maybe for a span of years or for longer periods of time over smaller swaths of the galaxy but there's nothing to reference really.

Palpatine was planning on using Luke's body to become a Dark Side God and take over the universe:

Dark Empire Sourcebook said:
As soon as Skywalker's dream of conquering the Darkness from within was crushed, the next stage in his training began. Fully under Palpatine's power, the boy would make a worthy disciple, as would his sister and her children in time. Perhaps he would enter the new unborn life and regain real flesh, but he would need preparation first. With the knowledge gained from his Dark Side Compendium, he would create an eternal dynasty, with the descendants of Skywalker as its nobility, and Palpatine himself as its omnipotent ruler.

As his plan proceeded, he became convinced that there was nothing between him and the eternal rule of Darkness. Even Ulic Qel-Droma would be envious of Palpatine. He had succeeded where all others had failed in taming the Dark Side. He would journey across the universe spreading the shadow of his rule, blotting out the stars themselves, and taking his Dark Rule to other helpless galaxies.
 

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