whats the people on this form opinion on Tim Pool and his news channels and podcast

[Whitestrake Pelinal]

How often does he claim to be real journalism? I've seen quite the opposite from him. He seems pretty open that he's got a partisan lean and is sharing his opinions.

He used to, but that was three years ago. I'm told he has openly stated a transition away from journalism to punditry, in which case the point is moot.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I am inclined to agree on both counts, but I'm not sure I find fault in these. This starts with the video thumbnails with one big angry red word. TERRORISM! WAR GAMES! EXTORTING! Continues with his presentation of the media he reports on, emotive readings of media text, and his own commentary, which is again, highly emotive.

It runs counter to his stated position of "real journalism". However, "real journalism" of the sort that C-Span engages in, never seems to be received by a mass audience. They want their feelz rubbed, preferably the way they like it, but they require some sort of animal stimulation to retain interest. Which brings up the question of financial success.

It is appropriate for a man to seek financial success, to support himself and hopefully one day a family. It is only wrong when he leaves obligations unfulfilled or harms others in the doing of it. Today's western populations do not engage without emotive content, so how wrong is Tim to succeed through it? Being ineffectual and unsuccessful is not a viable alternative, it serves neither his personal interests nor any higher journalistic interest.

There's advertisement and then there's getting your audience hooked on anger. It may work now, because people are being tribal, but if this is all he engages in, it may be all he knows when the public mood shifts. And instead of trying to stir up righteous anger, he will instead turn to stirring up trouble for the sake of his views.

Tim is walking the same perilous path that many social activists in the 80s and 90s walked. Instead of adjusting for his future, he may try to keep the hustle going. And it is a hustle. He is making money off this. He is optimizing his channel on this. And he will continue to try and make money off this.

There is a difference between what Styxx, Steven Molenyx, Scott Adams, and others in such fields draw attention to drama because it is both relevant and good business. And then there are people like Tim who stir up controversy because it is good business and only for business sake. Tim Pool may become no different than the washed up old social professors in shit universities collecting a pay check for creating racial divides.

I'm not going to defend grifters like him. He's even worse than Mike Cernobitch (though perhaps, not as shameless).

 

[LordsFire]

I'm not going to defend grifters like him. He's even worse than Mike Cernobitch (though perhaps, not as shameless).

You're attributing motive. Do you have evidence supporting the idea that his motives are dishonest?

 

[Terthna]

There's advertisement and then there's getting your audience hooked on anger. It may work now, because people are being tribal, but if this is all he engages in, it may be all he knows when the public mood shifts. And instead of trying to stir up righteous anger, he will instead turn to stirring up trouble for the sake of his views.

Tim is walking the same perilous path that many social activists in the 80s and 90s walked. Instead of adjusting for his future, he may try to keep the hustle going. And it is a hustle. He is making money off this. He is optimizing his channel on this. And he will continue to try and make money off this.

There is a difference between what Styxx, Steven Molenyx, Scott Adams, and others in such fields draw attention to drama because it is both relevant and good business. And then there are people like Tim who stir up controversy because it is good business and only for business sake. Tim Pool may become no different than the washed up old social professors in shit universities collecting a pay check for creating racial divides.

I'm not going to defend grifters like him. He's even worse than Mike Cernobitch (though perhaps, not as shameless).

I wouldn't call him a "grifter", because that assumes that he's being disingenuous; and I just don't believe that. You may not like what he does (and personally even I, as a fan of his, thinks he's gone way too far in embracing his new career as an emotional pundit), but he's not trying to deceive anyone.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

You're attributing motive. Do you have evidence supporting the idea that his motives are dishonest?

I wouldn't call him a "grifter", because that assumes that he's being disingenuous; and I just don't believe that. You may not like what he does (and personally even I, as a fan of his, thinks he's gone way too far in embracing his new career as an emotional pundit), but he's not trying to deceive anyone.

That said, he's got a point

What will guys like Tim be doing after the Far Left falls? Because I don't think there's much left to talk about that'll be extremely ridiculous and constantly be fed by the insane Far Left for a few years

Or at least just from the USA

Europe's already lost to it, even more than the USA

Because while it's pretty slow, the Far Left, particularly the mega-WOKE Identity Politics types are losing power

 

[LordsFire]

That said, he's got a point

What will guys like Tim be doing after the Far Left falls? Because I don't think there's much left to talk about that'll be extremely ridiculous and constantly be fed by the insane Far Left for a few years

Or at least just from the USA

Europe's already lost to it, even more than the USA

Because while it's pretty slow, the Far Left, particularly the mega-WOKE Identity Politics types are losing power

From what I've seen of Tim's character? He'd actually be happy to be a skater bro and cover a political scandal once every few months, instead of constantly. If all that's in the news anymore is 'community' pieces about the new charity that gives out free ice cream to poor children who learn to read, he'd be happy to be out of a job.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

From what I've seen of Tim's character? He'd actually be happy to be a skater bro and cover a political scandal once every few months, instead of constantly. If all that's in the news anymore is 'community' pieces about the new charity that gives out free ice cream to poor children who learn to read, he'd be happy to be out of a job.

Reminds me, I think even the Anti-SJW guys on Youtube are already doing things like making their own comicbooks

One of the things I don’t think the Far Left likes realizing is that the Anti-Far Left or Anti-SJWs aren’t simply defined by what they hate but what they love doing

And even if the Far Left dies, I don’t think “We The Internet TV” will run out of making new comedies and neither will Seamus from FreedomToons and Foundation For Economic Education, lose out on making vids on how/why economic freedom leads to prosperitt

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Still, I wonder how much faith he has in humanity these days

 

[Zacharguy]

from watching his more recent podcasts tims preparing for a major expansion one thing he's mentioned is a fact-checking wing not full of woke people so its easier for people to find good credible sources

 

[Zacharguy]

a new podcast run by adam Crigler who used to be on timcast IRL but is now splitting off and running his own podcast adamcast IRL he's still with tim and is a part of tims company or at least still works closely with tim it just started but if you look through most of the timcast podcast you can get a good idea of his beliefs.

Link

Adamcast IRL

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[Rocinante]

a new podcast run by adam Crigler who used to be on timcast IRL but is now splitting off and running his own podcast adamcast IRL he's still with tim and is a part of tims company or at least still works closely with tim it just started but if you look through most of the timcast podcast you can get a good idea of his beliefs.

Link

Adamcast IRL

Thanks for joining me on my solo YouTube adventure! I go live mon-fri 6:30pm - 8pm eastern time. You can find my Live Streams in Playlists. Follow me on othe...

www.youtube.com

I like Adam. Tim's irl show is not the same without him. He gave a good contrast to Tim's doom and gloom. And a different perspective. He's also newly red pilled and just started paying attention to the news this year and that turned him into a Trump supporter.. I wonder why he left the way he did. He was a good addition to the show.

This wasn't some planned out thing. Literally the night of a show, an Hour or two before, he posts to twitter "I am no longer on timcast IRL show" and...that's about it as far as information goes.

Hope he has success on his new show.

 

[gral]

I like Adam. Tim's irl show is not the same without him. He gave a good contrast to Tim's doom and gloom. And a different perspective. He's also newly red pilled and just started paying attention to the news this year and that turned him into a Trump supporter.. I wonder why he left the way he did. He was a good addition to the show.

This wasn't some planned out thing. Literally the night of a show, an Hour or two before, he posts to twitter "I am no longer on timcast IRL show" and...that's about it as far as information goes.

Hope he has success on his new show.

Some people are saying Adam's wife had something to do with it, but I haven't seen anything even resembling confirmation of that.

As for his new show, it's doing well for a beginning one, but just as Tim's show isn't exactly the same without Adam, what little I've seen of Adam's show gives me the impression he also needs a Tim-like character to counterbalance him. I need to watch more of Adam's to confirm that, though.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I wouldn't call him a "grifter", because that assumes that he's being disingenuous; and I just don't believe that. You may not like what he does (and personally even I, as a fan of his, thinks he's gone way too far in embracing his new career as an emotional pundit), but he's not trying to deceive anyone.

And a junkie might think of himself as charitable to offer a shot to a man in despair, for he is after all, offering relief, although he unwittingly might condemn that man to a worse lot.

Tim Pool has defined himself through this time of political turmoil. That is not to mean that he must absolutely condemn himself to always define himself as such, but so long as he defines himself as he does now, he will never see that the fight is ever over. Same as Bernie Sanders still defines himself as the revolutionary, despite being a part of the system for decades and being over 80, wealthier than any of his followers ever will be.

Because right now? He is as powerful as he's ever known. His name carries weight in a way that most people will never experience. And to lose that, even if in objective terms it is but a pebble on the beach next to a great ocean, is no small thing. The question is, will he accept that he as he was and his popularity is over? And so go on to redefine himself and start anew, even if that were to mean not another person would watch his videos? Or would he, fearing that he might lose it all, cling to his diminishing fame and wealth?

I'll admit, for most people, it's the later and not the former.

 

[LordsFire]

Because right now? He is as powerful as he's ever known. His name carries weight in a way that most people will never experience. And to lose that, even if in objective terms it is but a pebble on the beach next to a great ocean, is no small thing. The question is, will he accept that he as he was and his popularity is over? And so go on to redefine himself and start anew, even if that were to mean not another person would watch his videos? Or would he, fearing that he might lose it all, cling to his diminishing fame and wealth?

I'll admit, for most people, it's the later and not the former.

We cannot know until he actually hits such a position. To call him a grifter pre-emptively based on what he might some day do on the chance that the culture war is actually effectively 'won' for a time, seems quite unfair.

 

[Terthna]

And a junkie might think of himself as charitable to offer a shot to a man in despair, for he is after all, offering relief, although he unwittingly might condemn that man to a worse lot.

Tim Pool has defined himself through this time of political turmoil. That is not to mean that he must absolutely condemn himself to always define himself as such, but so long as he defines himself as he does now, he will never see that the fight is ever over. Same as Bernie Sanders still defines himself as the revolutionary, despite being a part of the system for decades and being over 80, wealthier than any of his followers ever will be.

Because right now? He is as powerful as he's ever known. His name carries weight in a way that most people will never experience. And to lose that, even if in objective terms it is but a pebble on the beach next to a great ocean, is no small thing. The question is, will he accept that he as he was and his popularity is over? And so go on to redefine himself and start anew, even if that were to mean not another person would watch his videos? Or would he, fearing that he might lose it all, cling to his diminishing fame and wealth?

I'll admit, for most people, it's the later and not the former.

Still, I think it's a bit premature to assume ahead of time that he'll fail this test of character.

 

[The Original Sixth]

Still, I think it's a bit premature to assume ahead of time that he'll fail this test of character.

I don't assume that he necessarily will, but merely observe that it is a difficult test of character that most fail, because of how deep the flaw (that he will be trained to see as a strength) runs within his character.

 

[Sailor.X]

I respect Tim Pool greatly though I disagree with him a lot. I consider him a must watch. Even if half the time I want to reach through the screen and choke him. I'm just waiting for the inevitable moment where he takes the Red Pill and or finally casts of the Democrats altogether. One or the other is going to happen and likely very soon. But in the meantime its like watching a slowly building pressure cooker building up.

Hey I am doing the best I can. Do you know how hard it is to talk a Venom Symbiote into taking the form of a Beanie. And to find one who will only go Center left and not want to go full on murder everyone evil.

 

[Typhonis]

Hey I am doing the best I can. Do you know how hard it is to talk a Venom Symbiote into taking the form of a Beanie. And to find one who will only go Center left and not want to go full on murder everyone evil.

Did you tell it, it can do more evil being on the side of the law than against?

 

[Sailor.X]

Did you tell it, it can do more evil being on the side of the law than against?

...................... Damn't!!!!

Now I have to drive to New Jersey!!! A Sailors work is never done.

 

[Typhonis]

Read the comic Evil Inc. The early part is about a supervillain that starts a company.

Well, that's embarrassing. It's behind a paywall now.