whats the people on this form opinion on Tim Pool and his news channels and podcast

[Shadepen97]

He must embrace both sides of his duality, and take to the roof tops and stop rioters with...his magic Jesus party powers*

*see the Marriage at Cana

So you want Tim to drown rioters in wine? sounds like a waste of good drink if you ask me.

Tax: I am ambivalent on Tim Poole, he has my respect for a lot of his earlier investigative work, but he also introduced me to Jreg of the "Centricide".

 

[LordsFire]

What I see in Tim Pool, is someone who bought into leftism at some point, but didn't choose to reject reality as part of it. I don't know if it's how he was raised, cultural osmosis through media, or what he was taught in school, but at some point he bought the moral narrative of the left.

The thing is, the mask's off, and he isn't willing to ignore that.

This will, inevitably, either hit a point where he checks out from politics (not likely, I think), he decides to start buying lies over the truth he can see in front of him (I don't think this is likely either), or he repudiates leftism.

Leftism is fundamentally incompatible with reality. The further down the rabbit-hole you go, the more you'll recognize that, and Tim, having actual journalistic principles, wants to get down to the bottom of the rabbit hole to find the truth.

If he sticks it out to the bottom, he'll go 'classical liberal' like Sargon did, I think.

 

[Senor Hortler]

If he sticks it out to the bottom, he'll go 'classical liberal' like Sargon did, I think.

Sargon seems about to go full 1488 any day honestly. Poor guy; he's been really put to the test these past few weeks/months, and a lot of his stuff now seems to always include mentions of his family and how much he wants to keep them safe. You'll never find a darker part of you than when you hold a baby you love and wonder what you'd do to keep that baby okay.

 

[LordsFire]

Sargon seems about to go full 1488 any day honestly. Poor guy; he's been really put to the test these past few weeks/months, and a lot of his stuff now seems to always include mentions of his family and how much he wants to keep them safe. You'll never find a darker part of you than when you hold a baby you love and wonder what you'd do to keep that baby okay.

I've not seen any danger of him going 1488. I think the most extremist endgame possible for the ideological direction Sargon is heading in, is him giving up on Britain, moving to the US, and buying a small arsenal. He is committed to what is essentially civic nationalism, and the more he reads up on philosophy and the like, the more he doubles down on commitment to his principles.

Unless something like a member of his family being killed by political violence happens, I think he'll be the sort who would be the last voice speaking truth to power for principles he refuses to budge on as totalitarianism descends across Britain.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

So you want Tim to drown rioters in wine? sounds like a waste of good drink if you ask me.

Tax: I am ambivalent on Tim Poole, he has my respect for a lot of his earlier investigative work, but he also introduced me to Jreg of the "Centricide".

No. Transmogrify it into a party, where the roof Koreans, the rioters, the protesters, the counter-protesters and everyone else will cast aside conflict and party, thus frustrating the plans of those who want to sow division among the American people.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

What I see in Tim Pool, is someone who bought into leftism at some point, but didn't choose to reject reality as part of it. I don't know if it's how he was raised, cultural osmosis through media, or what he was taught in school, but at some point he bought the moral narrative of the left.

The thing is, the mask's off, and he isn't willing to ignore that.

This will, inevitably, either hit a point where he checks out from politics (not likely, I think), he decides to start buying lies over the truth he can see in front of him (I don't think this is likely either), or he repudiates leftism.

Leftism is fundamentally incompatible with reality. The further down the rabbit-hole you go, the more you'll recognize that, and Tim, having actual journalistic principles, wants to get down to the bottom of the rabbit hole to find the truth.

If he sticks it out to the bottom, he'll go 'classical liberal' like Sargon did, I think.

That's the thing, I gotta say, the Left DOES have points regarding being skeptical regarding stuff like Laissez Affaire Capitalism and there being no welfare or government intervention programs, on the basis that people after awhile will help themselves and each other automatically both out of enlightened self-interest and genuine charity

People are flawed and hard to trust to always be smart and good

He likens stuff like welfare or healthcare to being bandages, you don't simply keep adding more bandages, there are those bandages that went rotten so you gotta replace them instead of simply piling them onto one another

Most unfortunate thing is that governments are also ran by people who are also flawed and can't always be beings of pragmatism and genuine niceness

So what was originally just programs to help out become part of the "Patron System" sort of politics even Ancient Rome had

 

[LordsFire]

That's the thing, I gotta say, the Left DOES have points regarding being skeptical regarding stuff like Laissez Affaire Capitalism and there being no welfare or government intervention programs, on the basis that people after awhile will help themselves and each other automatically both out of enlightened self-interest and genuine charity

Those programs have demonstrably failed.

And American Conservatives don't teach just leaving people to rot. We preach (and demonstrably practice) giving to and running private charities. Conservatives believe that those in hard circumstances should be cared for. We just do not believe the government should do it.

I think it Tim did a deep dive into the efficacy of private and local charity programs in actually getting people out of welfare dependence and/or poverty, rather than stagnant subsistence, he might change his tune.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Those programs have demonstrably failed.

And American Conservatives don't teach just leaving people to rot. We preach (and demonstrably practice) giving to and running private charities. Conservatives believe that those in hard circumstances should be cared for. We just do not believe the government should do it.

I think it Tim did a deep dive into the efficacy of private and local charity programs in actually getting people out of welfare dependence and/or poverty, rather than stagnant subsistence, he might change his tune.

Okay

Bit of a problem is, I think too many people are indoctrinated in-terms of news outlets and entertainment media, odds are they're not so aware of all those private charities existing in large numbers

Let alone WHY and HOW those programs fail.....it's an assurance, a false assurance, but they probably see governments as some sort of almighty neutral entity they can always trust.....it's something hard to shake off

 

[The Original Sixth]

my opinion is that he is one of the few actual center leftists left and not fallen to the lunacy of the mainstream

My opinion is that he's found himself a good market and he wants to make some cash.

Cynical, but that's the vibe I get from him. It's the same sort of vibe I got from Mundane Matt, Cadence Owens, and Ann Colter. I very much recommend that you do not follow people like Tim Pool. The material they cover is specifically designed to get you angry and riled up.

 

[Culsu]

Well, he more often than not uses the Daily Mail etc. as sources, which are intentionally structured in a way to get people's attention. That doesn't mean they have to be categorically wrong, but it's what I'd call the "Breitbart Approach": lead with a sensational head line, but often the actual content doesn't really substantiate the doom and gloom. Still, he's an interesting figure with his ears on the puls of time.

 

[Senor Hortler]

Timmy Boy's raging.

My opinion on Tim is that he's basically a centrist to me; that has found his niche, likes his niche and is happy to make money off of it; but also does genuinely believe in what he's saying.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Ever since I done the conscription duty, I feel instant dislike of anyone wearing a (non-neccessary) headgear indoors.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Beanie boy says he'll probably vote for Trump because Biden's too much for him.

 

[Whitestrake Pelinal]

My opinion is that he's found himself a good market and he wants to make some cash.

Cynical, but that's the vibe I get from him. It's the same sort of vibe I got from Mundane Matt, Cadence Owens, and Ann Colter. I very much recommend that you do not follow people like Tim Pool. The material they cover is specifically designed to get you angry and riled up.

I am inclined to agree on both counts, but I'm not sure I find fault in these. This starts with the video thumbnails with one big angry red word. TERRORISM! WAR GAMES! EXTORTING! Continues with his presentation of the media he reports on, emotive readings of media text, and his own commentary, which is again, highly emotive.

It runs counter to his stated position of "real journalism". However, "real journalism" of the sort that C-Span engages in, never seems to be received by a mass audience. They want their feelz rubbed, preferably the way they like it, but they require some sort of animal stimulation to retain interest. Which brings up the question of financial success.

It is appropriate for a man to seek financial success, to support himself and hopefully one day a family. It is only wrong when he leaves obligations unfulfilled or harms others in the doing of it. Today's western populations do not engage without emotive content, so how wrong is Tim to succeed through it? Being ineffectual and unsuccessful is not a viable alternative, it serves neither his personal interests nor any higher journalistic interest.

 

[Doomsought]

Activists extorting businesses is something that actually should be talked about more. We talk about cancel culture being used to do it, but Tim is the only person I've seen talk about it on the ground level.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Ever since I done the conscription duty, I feel instant dislike of anyone wearing a (non-neccessary) headgear indoors.

It's part of his brand by now tbh.

Plus Tim Pool suffers from severe male pattern baldness to the point it's distracting since he's like a perpetual twenty two year old or whatever.

 

[Terthna]

I am inclined to agree on both counts, but I'm not sure I find fault in these. This starts with the video thumbnails with one big angry red word. TERRORISM! WAR GAMES! EXTORTING! Continues with his presentation of the media he reports on, emotive readings of media text, and his own commentary, which is again, highly emotive.

It runs counter to his stated position of "real journalism". However, "real journalism" of the sort that C-Span engages in, never seems to be received by a mass audience. They want their feelz rubbed, preferably the way they like it, but they require some sort of animal stimulation to retain interest. Which brings up the question of financial success.

It is appropriate for a man to seek financial success, to support himself and hopefully one day a family. It is only wrong when he leaves obligations unfulfilled or harms others in the doing of it. Today's western populations do not engage without emotive content, so how wrong is Tim to succeed through it? Being ineffectual and unsuccessful is not a viable alternative, it serves neither his personal interests nor any higher journalistic interest.

Tim has talked about the reason behind his transition from an on-the-ground journalist to a pundit, and the gist of it is that the former started getting too expensive and dangerous, while the latter proved to be far more lucrative. Personally, I don't begrudge him for taking the safe and profitable option.

 

[LordsFire]

Tim is clear that he's a commentator and aggregator rather than on-the-street journalist these days.

He also makes regular effort in his videos to delineate between 'Here is what happened,' and 'Here is what I think about it.'

I've seen no good reason to suspect him of ill motive. I see in him a man driven by principles, who is steadily losing patience in people who have profaned his principles.

 

[Yinko]

It runs counter to his stated position of "real journalism". However, "real journalism" of the sort that C-Span engages in, never seems to be received by a mass audience. They want their feelz rubbed, preferably the way they like it, but they require some sort of animal stimulation to retain interest. Which brings up the question of financial success.

I'd personally prefer a more c-span like source. I usually only watch about half of any given one of Tim's videos, because by that point he's already said everything relevant and everything else is just emotive excess.

 

[Rocinante]

I am inclined to agree on both counts, but I'm not sure I find fault in these. This starts with the video thumbnails with one big angry red word. TERRORISM! WAR GAMES! EXTORTING! Continues with his presentation of the media he reports on, emotive readings of media text, and his own commentary, which is again, highly emotive.

It runs counter to his stated position of "real journalism". However, "real journalism" of the sort that C-Span engages in, never seems to be received by a mass audience. They want their feelz rubbed, preferably the way they like it, but they require some sort of animal stimulation to retain interest. Which brings up the question of financial success.

It is appropriate for a man to seek financial success, to support himself and hopefully one day a family. It is only wrong when he leaves obligations unfulfilled or harms others in the doing of it. Today's western populations do not engage without emotive content, so how wrong is Tim to succeed through it? Being ineffectual and unsuccessful is not a viable alternative, it serves neither his personal interests nor any higher journalistic interest.

How often does he claim to be real journalism? I've seen quite the opposite from him. He seems pretty open that he's got a partisan lean and is sharing his opinions.