raharris1973
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So, William and Mary's England, Scotland and Ireland, and the other parts of England's overseas empire, including the 12 Colonies (sans Georgia) on eastern seaboard of North America, Hudson's Bay, Newfoundland settlements, Caribbean possessions including Jamaica, Barbados, St. Kitts and some others, and multiple trading posts in Africa, India, and the East Indies, are sent back in time, to the summer of 1593, about 100 years before.
William & Mary's Britain has a 100 year head start on technology and "news from the future" on everybody else in Europe. Ambassadors and merchants of uptime versions of nearly all the nations of Europe are also present in England, and especially cities like London and Bristol and are other sources of diffusion of future knowledge, so Britain's monopoly won't be forever.
How do things develop from here, with European great power politics, world trade, colonization of the Americas, domestic politics, and metropolitan-colonial relations?
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A second scenario: What if the British Isles, Channel, North Sea & Irish Sea ISOT'ed from August 9, 1588 to Aug 9, 1488
This extends far enough south to cover the Gravelines battle site of the 8 August battle against the Spanish Armada. Details on the battle here: The End of the Spanish Armada | World Book
So, Elizabethan England, and the other parts of the British Isles, are sent back in time, to 4 years before the voyage of Columbus, with a 100 year head start on technology and "news from the future" on everybody else in Europe. Plus, they've got Francis Drake, Walter Raleigh, Francis Walsingham, and William Shakespeare on their side. England and Scotland, back in the world of 1488, are actually the world's only Protestant countries. That might change in a generation or two however.
Well actually, the English will *not* be the only ones to get 'news from the future' nor technology. The Spanish Armada was defeated and heavily damaged, but two-thirds of its ships did make it back to Spain. In this ATL, these ships, their crews and captains would bring back their 1588 knowledge and technology to 1488 Spain, and since they came from a motley assortment of Habsburg holdings like Portugal and the Netherlands in addition to Spain, the knowledge and tech will filter out.
However, England should still be the most advantaged country initially since it is an integrated whole as opposed to a defeated refugee Armada and set of sailors meeting their puzzled great-great-grandparents.
How do things develop from here, with European great power politics, religious affairs like the Reformation, Counter-Reformation and Inquisition, and world trade and colonization of the Americas?
William & Mary's Britain has a 100 year head start on technology and "news from the future" on everybody else in Europe. Ambassadors and merchants of uptime versions of nearly all the nations of Europe are also present in England, and especially cities like London and Bristol and are other sources of diffusion of future knowledge, so Britain's monopoly won't be forever.
How do things develop from here, with European great power politics, world trade, colonization of the Americas, domestic politics, and metropolitan-colonial relations?
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A second scenario: What if the British Isles, Channel, North Sea & Irish Sea ISOT'ed from August 9, 1588 to Aug 9, 1488
This extends far enough south to cover the Gravelines battle site of the 8 August battle against the Spanish Armada. Details on the battle here: The End of the Spanish Armada | World Book
So, Elizabethan England, and the other parts of the British Isles, are sent back in time, to 4 years before the voyage of Columbus, with a 100 year head start on technology and "news from the future" on everybody else in Europe. Plus, they've got Francis Drake, Walter Raleigh, Francis Walsingham, and William Shakespeare on their side. England and Scotland, back in the world of 1488, are actually the world's only Protestant countries. That might change in a generation or two however.
Well actually, the English will *not* be the only ones to get 'news from the future' nor technology. The Spanish Armada was defeated and heavily damaged, but two-thirds of its ships did make it back to Spain. In this ATL, these ships, their crews and captains would bring back their 1588 knowledge and technology to 1488 Spain, and since they came from a motley assortment of Habsburg holdings like Portugal and the Netherlands in addition to Spain, the knowledge and tech will filter out.
However, England should still be the most advantaged country initially since it is an integrated whole as opposed to a defeated refugee Armada and set of sailors meeting their puzzled great-great-grandparents.
How do things develop from here, with European great power politics, religious affairs like the Reformation, Counter-Reformation and Inquisition, and world trade and colonization of the Americas?