Religion What faith do you profess?

[Stargazer]

Ok, so I've been wanting to start some religious discussions on here but I realize I don't really have a sense of the religious demographics of this board. So I thought to just make a poll for what faith the members here profess to hold. Where do you fall?

(Sorry for lumping in Roman Catholicism with Eastern Orthodox, I'm limited to 10 poll options and I did want to make a distinction in Christianity between one side of the Reformation and the other).

 

[49ersfootball]

I'm Episcopalian.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Southern Independent Baptist.

 

[Terthna]

Agnosticism really shouldn't be lumped in with Atheism; speaking as someone who used to be the latter, and is currently the former (an agnostic theist, specifically), they're completely different.

 

[Buba]

@Terthna said it for me
I ticked "other" as I identify as agnostic/non-denominational non-Chalcedonian Christian.
As a former antitheistic atheist I go with a "Higher Power however we understand it"

Sorry for lumping in Roman Catholicism with Eastern Orthodox

Dogmatically are as good as one and the same, together with Miaphisites (Armenians, Copts, etc.).

 

[ATP]

Catholic.And you could remove both protestants and islam,becouse both could be denied using common logic.

 

[Stargazer]

Agnosticism really shouldn't be lumped in with Atheism; speaking as someone who used to be the latter, and is currently the former (an agnostic theist, specifically), they're completely different.

Yes I know there's a distinction, sorry for that too, again I had a limited amount of poll options.

Catholic.And you could remove both protestants and islam,becouse both could be denied using common logic.

"Could remove"? What do you mean? If you mean they can be shown to be false, I mean, sure, you think they're false from your point of view. And I could certainly debate you the other way around on Catholicism. That's not the point, it's a poll to see which major belief systems Sietch users profess to believe in.

 

[Zachowon]

cultus deorum Romanorum or Religio Romana.

so other.

what di you mean by new Age @Stargazer

 

[Stargazer]

cultus deorum Romanorum or Religio Romana.

so other.

what di you mean by new Age @Stargazer

Maybe a broad term for modern "spiritualism" or paganism. Perhaps I should have just left that to be included with "other".

 

[Zachowon]

Maybe a broad term for modern "spiritualism" or paganism. Perhaps I should have just left that to be included with "other".

I kinda figured so that is why I picked it.
I am a form if paganism

 

[ATP]

"Could remove"? What do you mean? If you mean they can be shown to be false, I mean, sure, you think they're false from your point of view. And I could certainly debate you the other way around on Catholicism. That's not the point, it's a poll to see which major belief systems Sietch users profess to believe in.
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Not i think.Everybody could use logic and see that.
1.Islam - they claim,that Christians are wrong becouse they belive in TRinity - OK.But they also claim,that Trinity is made from God,Jesus and Holy Mary.Which is fake - many christians sects debated over nature of Jesus,Holy Spirit and Trinity,but nobody ever claimed that Holy Mary is part of Trinity.

2.Protestants.
They claim,that they belong to Church made by Jesus.It is OK for catholics,orthodox and eastern churches,but all protestants was made after 1517.Thus could not be made by Jesus,becouse he departed Earth in 33AD.
Thus logic is enough to undarstandt that Jesus church could not be protestant.

“And this one thing at least is certain; whatever history teaches, whatever it omits, whatever it exaggerates or extenuates, whatever it says and unsays, at least the Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth, it is this.”
― John Henry Newman, An Essay On the Development Of Christian Doctrine: Theology

 

[Stargazer]

2.Protestants.
They claim,that they belong to Church made by Jesus.It is OK for catholics,orthodox and eastern churches,but all protestants was made after 1517.Thus could not be made by Jesus,becouse he departed Earth in 33AD.
Thus logic is enough to undarstandt that Jesus church could not be protestant.

Protestants claim to believe in and preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is taught in the Holy Bible, God's Word. Believing and following the Gospel is what makes you part of the universal Church of Jesus Christ, which has existed since he departed the Earth. The Reformers argued that the Vatican had replaced the true Biblical Gospel with human traditions, and that as a result the Vatican and any churches submitted to it don't have the Gospel and are no longer the true Church of Jesus Christ.

This isn't meant to be a debate thread though, I would be up for continuing this debate in another thread if you would like.

 

[Zachowon]

I have a thread set up for this sorta thing. In the same section if you and him want to take ot there @Stargazer

 

[Zachowon]

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/religions-of-ts-and-why-one-follows-the-one-they-do.3766/

Thread linked

 

[Free-Stater 101]

2.Protestants.
They claim,that they belong to Church made by Jesus.It is OK for catholics,orthodox and eastern churches,but all protestants was made after 1517.Thus could not be made by Jesus,becouse he departed Earth in 33AD.
Thus logic is enough to undarstandt that Jesus church could not be protestant.

No we claim a relationship between God and man exist like this.

Man<God

The entire argument you are using here is a fallacy because the entire belief in that the Church must be a hereditary continuity of Peter is an inherently Catholic one, based off Catholic belief/translation of scripture.

Protastantism isn't founded directly by Jesus nor do we profess it to be. But rather it bases it's belief off the idea to 'protest' the idea that The Catholic church alone is the sole dictate of God's will on earth and is the only way through which to have a relationship with God on Earth.

You want to keep believing stuff like this than feel free, but please don't say things like this unless you have real statements and facts to back it up.

 

[Buba]

No we claim a relationship between God and man exist like this.
SNIP

Please don't derail. This thread - as stated by the OP - is to be a listing.
And another poster has already linked to a thread for discussing the superiority of the Way of the Sandal over the Course of the Gourd.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Please don't derail. This thread - as stated by the OP - is to be a listing.
And another poster has already linked to a thread for discussing the superiority of the Way of the Sandal over the Course of the Gourd.

I get it no need to be angry. But keep in mind ATP bought it up and was the one who made broad strokes here. If you say an obviously ridiculous statement you should be expecting somebody to call you out on it.

 

[Buba]

I get it no need to be angry.

I'm not angry.
I'm just whining non-heatedly

 

[Stargazer]

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/religions-of-ts-and-why-one-follows-the-one-they-do.3766/

Thread linked

Thank you, though if ATP wants to continue the discussion I would just make a thread specifically for the Catholic/Protestant debate.

No we claim a relationship between God and man exist like this.

Man<God

The entire argument you are using here is a fallacy because the entire belief in that the Church must be a hereditary continuity of Peter is an inherently Catholic one, based off Catholic belief/translation of scripture.

Protastantism isn't founded directly by Jesus nor do we profess it to be. But rather it bases it's belief off the idea to 'protest' the idea that The Catholic church alone is the sole dictate of God's will on earth and is the only way through which to have a relationship with God on Earth.

You want to keep believing stuff like this than feel free, but please don't say things like this unless you have real statements and facts to back it up.

I appreciate the support, though I want to point out that Protestantism is not about "protesting" the Catholic church in general. The name specifically comes from German Lutheran princes who wrote a "letter of protestation" to the Diet of Speyer in 1529 that condemned Martin Luther's teachings as heretical in the Holy Roman Empire.

Please don't derail. This thread - as stated by the OP - is to be a listing.
And another poster has already linked to a thread for discussing the superiority of the Way of the Sandal over the Course of the Gourd.

A little bit of discussion is ok, I'm just saying if we get into an in depth debate it should be taken to another thread.

 

[ATP]

No we claim a relationship between God and man exist like this.

Man<God

The entire argument you are using here is a fallacy because the entire belief in that the Church must be a hereditary continuity of Peter is an inherently Catholic one, based off Catholic belief/translation of scripture.

Protastantism isn't founded directly by Jesus nor do we profess it to be. But rather it bases it's belief off the idea to 'protest' the idea that The Catholic church alone is the sole dictate of God's will on earth and is the only way through which to have a relationship with God on Earth.

You want to keep believing stuff like this than feel free, but please don't say things like this unless you have real statements and facts to back it up.

You discuss with something i never wrote.I do not claim,that my Faith is True,even if i am beliver,only that from 10 religions we could choose here 2 could be described as false using only logic - islam and protestants.Nothing more,nothing less.
All others in which i do not belive,ilke buddhism,could not be described as false using logic.That is all.