Warship Appreciation Thread

[bintananth]

no no. I think they may actually be statistically irrelevant. probably above 1% but not sure if they breach 10%.

They're more common than you think. Unfortunately, no one listens to them.

Back to warships:

Ships of the American Revolution and Their Models

Detailed information for the model builder. Includes ph…

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The guy who wrote it picked seven ships of the period, recounted their histories, and built scale models of them. When I was a kid you could get bluprint copies of the drawings he made so that you could build your own. His drawings are probably more detailed than what the shipyards had when they built the real thing.

Those drawings were derived from drawings the Royal Navy had filed away in their archives. Models like the ones Harold H. Hahm built were made by shipwrights back in the day so the client knew what they were paying for and the yardworkers knew what to build.

 

[LordSunhawk]

I'll have to go dig through my collection, but I have a book that includes line drawings, sail plans, and photographs of half models and full models of all of the US Navy sailing vessels up to the Civil War.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

And that's why politicians shouldn't dictate the technical parameters of an engineering proyect without at least a certain amount of self-awareness of their own limitations in practical knowledge.

To be fair, the king in question was the legendary Gustavus Adolphus, whose practical knowledge of warfare was in fact world-class. He wasn't even wrong about the considerable benefits of a uniform heavy caliber ammunition from an *artillery* perspective.

 

[bintananth]

To be fair, the king in question was the legendary Gustavus Adolphus, whose practical knowledge of warfare was in fact world-class. He wasn't even wrong about the considerable benefits of a uniform heavy caliber ammunition from an *artillery* perspective.

He also didn't understand that naval artillery is much larger and heavier than field artillery. His army used light cannons. During The Battle of Breitenfeld he had 56 cannons.

The Vasa was meant to carry 64 cannons larger than anything his army could get somewhere in a timely manner.

 

[BF110C4]

To be fair, the king in question was the legendary Gustavus Adolphus, whose practical knowledge of warfare was in fact world-class. He wasn't even wrong about the considerable benefits of a uniform heavy caliber ammunition from an *artillery* perspective.

There is a marked difference between tactical knowledge (the heavier the artillery, the better) and technical (heavy artillery is too heavy for this ship), when acting outside their specific knowledge base suggestions should be done in a question format.

"Can we increase the size of our ships in construction?"

"Yes, although the design would be unstable."

"Do it."

...

"Can we add to our new ships 48 heavy guns?"

"No, my lord, the ship is too unstable. However we can design one."

"A shame, add as many as you can."

 

[Sailor.X]

Posted for informational purposes.

 

[Bacle]

 

[ATP]

That is comfy chair.Typical french - even burning enemy cities must be made in comfortable chair.

 

[bintananth]

That is comfy chair.Typical french - even burning enemy cities must be made in comfortable chair.

The Redoutable is a museum ship. That's way nicer than what her captain had when she was in service.

Her beam is about 35ft. My driveway is 24ft wide.

 

[PsihoKekec]

The sailor accused of burning down Bonhomme Richard is most likely just a scapegoat

A long article but the gist is:
- there is no conclusive proof that the fire was arson in the first place
- there is no conclusive proof that the scapegoat was in the area where the fire started
- there was other suspect, but NCIS used just as spurious reasoning to clear him as the reasoning they used to pin the blame on Mays

 

[PsihoKekec]

And he has just been acquitted

UPDATED: Former Bonhomme Richard Sailor Ryan Sawyer Mays Acquitted of Arson - USNI News

 

[Megadeath]

Huh. If you ignore the 4th picture, those are practically ST:TNG sets, right?

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Huh. If you ignore the 4th picture, those are practically ST:TNG sets, right?

The extensive use of curves and circles serves two functions: it makes efficient use of very small spaces while also making those spaces more comfortable by masking just how cramped they are, and it's consistent with French styles of the era.

 

[Sailor.X]

Grunts often bitch and moan about being in the woods or jungle when it is raining heavy. Meanwhile Sailors be like....................



At least the ground you are on is not moving up and down 24/7

 

[Zachowon]

Yeah but at least you are harder to hit then me

 

[Husky_Khan]

Time to appreciate how Italian carriers are getting bigger... thicker and longer... with even more endurance presumably featuring the Garibaldi, Cavour and Trieste.



Though jury is still out if Italy will run out of oil again.

 

[Bacle]

Sammy B still has unexploded depth charges on her, it seems. Was probably the only munition they had they couldn't really do anything with.

 

[BF110C4]

Sammy B still has unexploded depth charges on her, it seems. Was probably the only munition they had they couldn't really do anything with.

That could be potentially problematic, of all the live ammo in her deep charges are the most dangerous both because they have the greater proportion of explosives and because depending on which part corrodes first if the safeties rot then deep charges were designed to blow up at an specific dept that considering its current resting place has more than been exceeded therefore having a (to be fair small) possibility of blowing up.

 

[bintananth]

That could be potentially problematic, of all the live ammo in her deep charges are the most dangerous both because they have the greater proportion of explosives and because depending on which part corrodes first if the safeties rot then deep charges were designed to blow up at an specific dept that considering its current resting place has more than been exceeded therefore having a (to be fair small) possibility of blowing up.

Her depth charges were designed to go "BOOM!" at 600ft (275psig) max. She's resting at ~22,620ft (~9,792psig). If the fuses still work over 75yrs after she sank they're likely not set to detonate and in "safe" mode, for what that's worth.

Wouldn't risk disturbing one considering how stubbornly and willfully - if not maliciously - incompetent BuOrds was back then.

 

[Bacle]

Hyundai entering the CV game it looks like. Has a mix of QE and Izumo lines, from the initial look, and is ramp-carrier.