However, Ukraine doesn't have the money or facilities right now to use them.
Warship Appreciation Thread
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I'd say with the aid packages, they have the money.
Facilities...yeah, so issues there, but if Ukraine was willing to pay someone else to do the maintenance...
Don't know if it would be possible. The Tico hulls are nearing the end of their endurance. Destroyer hulls (in which the Ticos are part of) have 30 years of life built into the design. They can't go pass that and remain structurally sound at sea.
Well, they are putting them in the Reserve Fleet, not straight to a scrap yard, so the brass must think they still have some potential for use in an emergency/war.
Not like they had much choice. The Ready Reserve Force (RRF) | MARAD
They had no Warships in the Reserve fleet at all. Both Bush and Obama was sinkex and scrapyard happy when it came to warships.
Doomsought
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Cost cutting I'm sure. While geared turbines are effective, they are also extremely expensive especially with that rental agreement thing the US has going on. I think a return to turbo-electric might be worth the performance hit just for how it would improve the logistics of maintaining a large fleet.
Blasterbot
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How big a hit to performance is it? genuine question cause my knowledge of this is mostly from video games that abstract things away into percentages that may or may not be related to reality.
PsihoKekec
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If you think they actually get money from USA, then I got a bridge in New York to sell you. They get equipment that is on loan, increasing their monetary debt and much of the founds in Ukraine bills for Ukraine is actually rider stuff that has nothing to do with Ukraine.
Also Ukraine has no experience operating Ticonderogas, has very few experienced sailors in general and sending worn out ship with inexperienced crew into warzone is an excellent way for Russia to get a cheap kill and propaganda victory.
Blasterbot
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river battleship is an interesting idea I guess. easy bait for helicopters and airstrikes but if it is mostly cartels you are worried about it makes sense.
Doomsought
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THe US Navy used to have a fairly large brown water element. Many of our early destroyers had seakeeping issues because they were designed to use on coasts and rivers.
Blasterbot
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the PBR is ridiculous and we put a bunch of teenagers on them. hell I kinda want one after seeing it on Grand Tour. so much speed and power. rather hard to steer at slow speeds though.
My brother served on one of those back during Vietnam.the PBR is ridiculous and we put a bunch of teenagers on them. hell I kinda want one after seeing it on Grand Tour. so much speed and power. rather hard to steer at slow speeds though.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
I have heard and seen the concept being pushed in Poland to buy back these ships from the Americans for our Navy.
Looking at the comments under such ideas, and the fact that the Miecznik program was eventually chosen as the main one, I guess you can guess how this idea was received by our sailors.
Of course, the argument of those in favor of these ships was de facto one, our fleet doesn't really exist so whatever comes in handy.
It's just a shame that these voices are also those who question the need for our navy.
Which is quite funny, before WWII we barely had 1/10th of the coast of today and we had a much better and more powerful navy than the current one. And back then there was only a shortage of money for everything, even fuel for ships.
Hence the popular notion that this beauty, now well into her years, is the most dangerous ship of the Polish Fleet, even though she no longer has propulsion.
And the only thing that can face her is this sweet corvette.
Although looking at how the Russian fleet has shown off lately, one could say that throwing the Błyskawica without propulsion would be too much for them, let's take away its torpedo launchers, then it will be fair for the Russians.
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The Russian Navy would be hard pressed taking on me and my old Navy Buddies crewing a RHIB Boat.I have heard and seen the concept being pushed in Poland to buy back these ships from the Americans for our Navy.
Looking at the comments under such ideas, and the fact that the Miecznik program was eventually chosen as the main one, I guess you can guess how this idea was received by our sailors.
Of course, the argument of those in favor of these ships was de facto one, our fleet doesn't really exist so whatever comes in handy.
It's just a shame that these voices are also those who question the need for our navy.
Which is quite funny, before WWII we barely had 1/10th of the coast of today and we had a much better and more powerful navy than the current one. And back then there was only a shortage of money for everything, even fuel for ships.
Hence the popular notion that this beauty, now well into her years, is the most dangerous ship of the Polish Fleet, even though she no longer has propulsion.
And the only thing that can face her is this sweet corvette.
Although looking at how the Russian fleet has shown off lately, one could say that throwing the Błyskawica without propulsion would be too much for them, let's take away its torpedo launchers, then it will be fair for the Russians.
Article comparing the future Ford-Class Carriers, China's planned Type-003 Fujian-class Carrier and le France's PA-NG (Porte-avions de nouvelle génération) Carrier.
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U.S. Navy, China And France's Future Aircraft Carriers Compared - Naval News
The future of aircraft carriers is assured. Tomorrow's oceans will be more complex and contested, with new threats emerging. Yet the carrier will continue to provide unrivaled conventional superiority to the few navies which can operate them. Only the United States, China and France are building...
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Royal Navy's HMS Tamar hanging out in the idyllic Philippines.
It is a River-class Offshore Patrol Vessel launched only a few years ago. Fourteen River-class OPV's were built, with eight in the service of the Royal Navy, another transferred to service with the Bahrain Navy, three more built in Britain for the Brazilian Navy and two built under license by Thailand for their Navy.
It is a River-class Offshore Patrol Vessel launched only a few years ago. Fourteen River-class OPV's were built, with eight in the service of the Royal Navy, another transferred to service with the Bahrain Navy, three more built in Britain for the Brazilian Navy and two built under license by Thailand for their Navy.
I feel like the French will build the actual Non-US NATO Flagship